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re: NYC subway rider that killed someone in self defense has charges dropped

Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:48 am to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:48 am to
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It is amazing that they are carrying out this double standard right in front of our eyes
Who is "they?"

The prosecutor treated both cases identically, filing charges in both cases and letting the grand jury decide whether to issue an indictment

If there is a "they" engaged in implementing a double standard," it is "the people of New York" as represented by the grand jury, right?

Of course, all of that assumes identical facts, and the facts of the cases are not identical. The assailant in THIS case actually assaulted someone (punched the girlfriend in the face), while the assailant in the Penny case was acting erratically and making threats but did not commit an assault (as I recall).

This gentleman was protecting a specific individual, whereas Penny subdued someone who was arguably not a "direct" threat to any individual, although his erratic behavior made him a "potential" threat to anyone on the train car.

Jordan's case (factually) for justification seems much stronger than Penny's case for both of these reasons.

Or the entire grand jury mechanism could be engaged in reverse discrimination against a blonde guy.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 7:52 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73638 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:49 am to
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Good news and a rare act of sanity out of NYC. Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison.


Can you read the numbers shown here?

Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15116 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:51 am to
Penny is 100% a hero and should be walking free, but in fairness, based on the circumstances and actions of the deceased, the black kid getting charged was even more egregious than Penny being charged.
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2669 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:52 am to
If you don't think a DA can influence a grand jury to come back with a conclusion of no finding, you are nuts.
Oh wait, we already know that.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:55 am to
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If you don't think a DA can influence a grand jury to come back with a conclusion of no finding, you are nuts.
Oh wait, we already know that.
So, you think that the DA filed charges against both men, and then went before the Jordan grand jury and pulled a fancy, reverse Br'er Rabbit? "I am TECHNICALLY asking you for an indictment (wink, wink), but it is really up to you (wink, wink)."

OK.
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
6072 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:06 am to
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Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison.


Sure you do...because Penny is white, and Williams is black
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2669 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:46 am to
Yes. Now you are finally beginning to understand how the justice system is working now. Congratulations.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9498 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:59 am to
The race baiter heads are exploding. Just days after this guy was arrested they were crying because his defense hadn't raised as much money as Penny's. So that was racist. So now the black guy is free and Penny is still fighting for his freedom. They won't be able to that crutch.
Posted by Bad Second Baseman
Member since Jun 2023
40 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:22 pm to
In one case there is evidence of an assailant assaulting a woman and being stabbed to death during a subsequent struggle with the man who then stabbed him.

In the other case, unless I’ve missed something, there is no evidence of Neely assaulting anyone before being killed or doing anything that warrants his killing.

The facts are vastly different in both cases. Making this about race in the way we’ve seen is racist.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 7:34 pm
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