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re: No One Should be surprised that Europe is abandoning Free Speech

Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:55 am to
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:55 am to
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In most of those (European) countries, the aristocrats were never truly defeated.


True.

Aristocrats. Bluebloods. Banker-class. Those-who-shall-not-be-named.

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Most constitutions in Europe don't have any freedom of speech or to bear arms.


Both of which swung open the door for WEF-Davos-Elite tyranny to impose a Third World invitation to dilute, destroy and exterminate Europeans' (and Aussies') respective right to live in peace as free men and retain national identity.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:55 am to
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The reason it's getting worse is that outlawing 'bad speech' has no bright line

Yup
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:57 am to
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Egalitarianism inadvertently leads to totalitarianism. Its a fatal attrattraction

It's because the only possible way to achieve egalitarianism is with totalitarianism. All that's happened in the last half century is people around the world who really in their heart of hearts are children of the USSR tried to fiddle around the edges to achieve the same goal. But of course they can't because it's impossible. Which is why eventually they start finding the policies of the USSR more and more attractive
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:59 am to
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Was she charged with any crime?


Immigration court is not a criminal court. It’s administrative. Why would she need to be charged with a crime?

Do you agree Rubio has the discretion under the law to revoke her status?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7907 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:00 am to
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Both of which swung open the door for WEF-Davos-Elite tyranny to impose a Third World invitation to dilute, destroy and exterminate Europeans' (and Aussies') respective right to live in peace as free men and retain national identity.


Agreed, the money never left the elites, unlike in the USA.

Nationalism is a threat to them.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299102 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:01 am to
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But of course they can't because it's impossible


Indeed.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28562 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:01 am to
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The left wants to make citizenship meaningless. Not a citizen, go ahead and vote anyway, we don't care. Not a citizen, run wild trying with your protests on our soil like you own the place.

Right wingers spout bs after bs in a constant stream. That’s why intelligent people consider you to be brainwashed morons.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:02 am to
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Right wingers spout bs after bs in a constant stream. That’s why intelligent people consider you to be brainwashed morons.


can a man get pregnant?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299102 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:02 am to
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Right wingers spout bs after bs in a constant stream.


The leftist war on free speech is very real, even in this country.

Only a fool could deny it.


Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82314 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:03 am to
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Not an American citizen.



Exactly.

Free speech is a right of U.S. Citizens. Don't come up in here with examples of aliens.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
7978 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:04 am to
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Only a fool could deny it.

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TBoy
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
4254 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:05 am to
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That’s why intelligent people consider you to be brainwashed morons


Did an intelligent person tell you that? You are an obvious imbecile so you don't qualify.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2556 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:11 am to
So do you believe she actually didn’t commit a crime, or is the issue she wasn’t charged? Now go ask yourself who should’ve charged her and why didn’t they do so.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7907 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:13 am to
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Right wingers spout bs after bs in a constant stream. That’s why intelligent people consider you to be brainwashed morons.


What is a woman?
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58179 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:20 am to
They appreciate it more in Eastern Europe because they struggled for their freedom under German and then Soviet rule.

Western Europe? But for England, we gave them their freedom. They didn't appreciate the lessons needed to develop a free society. They are much more subservient to the state then we are here. Unfortunately, England is going their way also.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19271 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:28 am to
Reverting back to kings and knights rule where Serfs had no say whatsoever but paid for privileges of life, mostly by fighting for life
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37062 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:29 am to
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Europe is abandoning Free Speech



How can you abandon something you never had?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35017 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:32 am to
Europe blah blah europe gave us...

the plague, spanish flu, ww1, ww2 and likely ww3, fascism, nazis, communism, socialism and woke movement...


europe is not the shining city on the hill
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5274 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:36 am to
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Was she charged with any crime?

This is the same crap that was used against J6ers. Punish the political speech by exaggerating the trespassing and property damage aspects. OMG, the protest was "illegal!"


This is where the gray area of speech rights for alien residents occurs. Many organizations that advise or assist visa applicants/holders advise them that political activism is a danger zone, because they are also subject to immigration law. Furthermore, they tell them that support for and/or association with groups that engage in protests that break the law, particularly while lending moral support to terrorist organizations, risks falling on the wrong side of that gray area. If a resident alien engages in, or encourages protest where people are supporting the ideals of terrorists, even by chanting their slogans or wearing their logos, and especially trespassing, harassing people with opposing views, damaging property, then their speech rights may not include remaining in the country.

To your point, if a resident alien had participated in and encouraged the events of 1/6/2020, they would probably have been afforded very little opportunity to avoid deportation using free speech as a defense, even though that event was solely directed at domestic political affairs.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55256 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:38 am to
For a very long time I have personally held the view that the destiny of the Unites States of America is to become the more powerful Totalitarian Radical Leftist Socialist Globalist Oppressive Atheist Dictatorship that ever existed.

That destiny may won't be realized until quite far in the future - after the death by old age of everybody alive today.

But, I have believed for a long time that this is the destiny of the USA.
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