re: New video of Pretti a week before being shot showing his violent behavior

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So it is completely due to what you deem as stupid decisions made by the guy?

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Yes!! This is how the law works. It is the totality of the situation that is examined which includes things such as the victims behavior, any intents he may have expressed giving insight into his thought process and its underlying impact on his behavior. Likewise, the same will be examined of the officers. It’s never as simple as he shot him, he’s dead, he is therefore guilty..

You have to overcome an officer believing he faced grave danger or bodily harm. If you want to pin first degree murder on him you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the officer in question had ZERO reasonable fear for his safety or others.. and I’ll tell you from looking at the tape, his body language goes from a calm relative 5 to a 20 the moment the dead guy’s pistol is pulled. You can see him push the officer in grey out of the way and you can see him use his body to try and separate the agent on the ground from Pretti. Something triggered him to react and he moved with purpose. He didn’t casually pull his pistol, stroll around to Pretti’s rear and then open fire in cold blood.

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So it is completely due to what you deem as stupid decisions made by the guy? Nothing the DHS agents did was stupid?

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Stupid decisions have consequences. DHS was doing their job, he was there to disrupt it. Whether he "deserved" what he got is not really relevant, whether the officer saw him as an imminent threat is. He objectively put himself in a threatening position by pushing back on a cop while holding a gun.

This isn't hard to understand. Responsible people that hold themselves accountable are holding this guy accountable for his actions as they influence the legality of the killing.

If Pretti had been arrested and detained that day, he may still be alive.

Again, we see why politicians and activists were rushing this to the presses before the truth about this guy came out.

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Yea i agree he was not a peaceful protestor. throw his arse in jail don't kill him.

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What he did gets people killed by LEO all the time.

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So it is completely due to what you deem as stupid decisions made by the guy? Nothing the DHS agents did was stupid?

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His death was the intended outcome of the protests. They blow whistles and foster chaos in order to create a situation which will lead to injury/death of “innocents” so the protesters can turn public opinion in their favor. This was an inevitable outcome by design and much more premeditated by the protestors than an accident committed by ICE, in my opinion.

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Dude was still murdered, it was on video,

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The death video proves it wasn’t murder. It was justified based on his dumb moves.

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Posted by VOR 1/28/26 at 5:01 pm to hawgfaninc He kicked a SUV. Kill him!

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what it shows is he was looking to pick a fight and was unstable. He got what he was looking for.

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I'll just leave this HERE (youtube)

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So you agree with the YouTuber when he said that “definitionally, that is assault of a law enforcement officer” referring to Pretti putting his hands on the LEO? (11:00ff in the video)

He follows with this:

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If you’re going to go to a protest to observe, you have to be an observer…
If you decide that you’re going to get involved, if you decide not to be an observer, but to be a participant, you could run into problems like this

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Did you agree with that, too?

Then he says:

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This does meet the definition of assault on a police officer, maybe impeding an official investigation

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Did you agree with that, too?

Lemme know.
K thx.

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Good to know your stance on it. According to Stout's current post on the PT board, 210 illegals have murdered someone since 2020? Would you chalk that up to "shite happens"? I bet not.

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This retard thinks apples are oranges