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re: New shooting in Minnesota

Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:10 pm to
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I've see 2 Republicans I know on social media pissed about the shooting.

Compelling argument -
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:11 pm to
He said "only" not me
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2281 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:12 pm to
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turn the tide of a chunk of moderates against the admin


Don’t confuse wanting an end to the protesting with this. These moderates are not suddenly surprised the Trump admin are deporting people.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:12 pm to
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And we're to believe theres no way this was planted on the murdered victim?

That's a high-end custom build. Even if law enforcement WERE using throw-down guns, they'd be Taurus and Hi-Point, not $2,000+ tricked-out Sig Sauers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:14 pm to
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These moderates are not suddenly surprised the Trump admin are deporting people.


The killing people would be the problem
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21442 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:14 pm to
The second amendment is irrelevant in this situation. There were credible threats made throughout the week advocating violence against Federal Agents. There were multiple arrests made as well. This guy presented himself to federal agents as armed and confrontational. Under no circumstances can you allow an unknown, confrontational, armed individual to remain armed in this situation. Furthermore, trying to hide this individuals actions behind the 2nd amendment is asinine. You have the right to bear arms and you may very well be within your rights to open or conceal carry, but you also have the obligation to exercise good judgment in exercising those rights. This guy inserted himself into a legal law enforcement operation armed with a handgun which any RESPONSIBLE gun owner will tell you is a poor exercise of judgment.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:14 pm to
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I've see 2 Republicans I know on social media pissed about the shooting


Tell them the guy was working to disenfranchise their 2024 Trump votes.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:15 pm to
Whelp, this thread just took a turn towards the shitter.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:15 pm to
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Having a weapon is legal. Resisting and obstructing is not. Resisting without touching his weapon does not give anyone the right to shoot him.

It really is a simple concept.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
2746 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:16 pm to
Protests against Trump have entered their 11th year.
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2673 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:17 pm to
There is video of an ICE agent taking the guy's gun and as he's backing away with the gun in hand, one of the ICE agents shoots the guy while he's on his knees being held down by three other agents, then the others back away as the ICE agent pumps several rounds into what is most likely now a dead body, this is not good for ICE.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33465 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:17 pm to
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If thats the gun then its justified 100%, the video resolution being extremely bad makes it difficult to actually tell


I don't know that it is for certain but if it is then most certainly he was going to be shot

If he was struggling at any point just to reach for it or was trying to take an officer's gun then for sure he was going to get shot

The video above claims to show a cop come away with a gun whether that was his gun or another ICE officer's gun or the perp's IDK

In the end he chose to obstruct ICE resisted arrest & from what I am hearing he possibly bit a finger off so there is really not much sympathy I have for him
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2281 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:17 pm to
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The killing people would be the problem


Unless these hypothetical moderates view the protestors as obstacles to deportation and the rule of law.
Posted by SnacknGold06
Member since Oct 2025
137 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:17 pm to
I believe both lurk so you probably just told them yourself
Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
16567 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:18 pm to
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If he was going to shoot he would have done it a lot sooner.


That’s exactly it. He never intended to use it and that’s what got him killed. It made him feel brave when confronting law enforcement. That bravado shrunk up like his mincey balls when someone pushed back. Never carry a gun unless you know you can use it if need be.
Posted by Junger
Member since Jan 2026
270 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91396 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:20 pm to


Idk what the deceased was doing before this but he’s not much of a threat. ICE guy seems to start this whole thing and then they kill him.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10017 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:20 pm to
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They need to stop getting involved with citizens. If a citizen does something unlawful get the local police to handle it.


Not their job. They have other LEO duties
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27309 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:20 pm to
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The killing people would be the problem

I don’t think violently interjecting yourself into ongoing police matters in an already tense, near rolling boil situation, is a good idea. These situations look to be escalated by the ones who made these poor decisions.
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