re: Netflix under fire for historically accurate casting of biblical movie…

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Good.

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Then they won't have leverage to negotiate

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SFP, noted and esteemed man of law, has like half the posts in a 6 page thread about a netflix show on 9 am wednesday morning.

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I don't go into the office until 9. It's only 8:18

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Then they won't have leverage to negotiate

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Sure they wont

Is poses that modern ashkenazi Jews have no relation at all to ancient Israel, but instead descend from the khazars

Khazaria was a kingdom in the Middle Ages in modern day Ukraine, Russia, and into the caucuses. At some point one of their rulers was forced to adopt one of the Abrahamic religions and chose Judaism, and it became the state mandated religion.

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don't go into the office until 9. It's only 8:18

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Remember the time you took a shower, dried your hair, got dressed and then stopped to put air in the tires before getting to work and logging back on the PT board all in 26 minutes...and then proceeded to make over 200 post for the day while still meeting with " clients"...

You're so full of shite that I just use you to laugh at now.

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This is one crazy-arse blanket statement without support, my guy.

First of all - there are at least 2 "Israeli" Jewish groups to consider, and they have largely mixed since the Zionist movement back to the mid/late 19th Century.

There are millions of Jews today who descend from Israeli Jews that literally never left the Levant. Never. And the descendants of "remigration" Jews (returned from primarily Europe, primarily of Ashkenazi stock) that really accelerated around 1870 or 1880, whose genetic identity is far closer to those of the Fertile Crescent and the Levant than the Central and Eastern European populations whom they lived among and alongside.

So, if you're going to be a genetic bigot (certainly many Palestinian Muslims today can trace ancestry back to ancient populations of the area - hell the name we give them is derived from the Biblical Philistines, and there is an older Egyptian term back to some of the earliest recorded history we have in the region), be a better informed one, would be my recommendation.

There is zero question that the Jews of Europe were refugees from the Roman period, the Arab Muslim period, the Crusader period and the Turkish period of occupation and strife of the Holy Land.

And there is zero question that there are Jews in Israel who literally never left. The Palestinian Arabic speakers who are mostly Muslim are descendants of the same people who just converted and intermarried with the Arab (and, in some cases, Turkish) invaders of the 7th Century.

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Wow I completely missed this post. My apologies

I’ve already addressed the core point multiple times that the modern Palestinians are a closer genetic match, and that is the relevant response to most of this.

However I did see this statement:

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There are millions of Jews today who descend from Israeli Jews that literally never left the Levant. Never.

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And I don’t think that’s accurate at all. Millions? Can you provide anything to support this statement? Yes I agree there was a remnant of Jews in Palestine who never left, but it was vanishingly small from everything I’ve gathered studying this topic.

ETA according to THIS, in 1852 (prior to any Zionist migration) there were 13,000 Jews living in Palestine. The link gives all the numbers of how many moved in over the years.

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You see, Mary and Joseph were “Palestinian” and not Israeli according to sky screamers on social media.

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Hahaha, I thought they were under fire because they portrayed Joseph and Marie as a black, gay man and Marie as a Hispanic trannie!! Lolz


frick’em

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Maybe as a whole we should start ignoring them and in the rare cases where they get recognized just tell them no.....and move on

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I agree with this . . . in a perfect world.

We ignored trans until the intrusion into women’s sports and bathrooms.

Maybe we can go back to ignoring one day, but in a social media world, where insignificant crazy is given a voice, we have to call it out.

So now it’s all about authenticity? I thought the focus was on diversity. Make Mary and Joseph black and we don’t have a problem.

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Correct, and that was the only time in history that the territory was called "Palestine" which is where they derive the word now. However, as you pointed out, it has nothing to do with modern Palestinians.

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To add a little to it, the Philistines were the original "Palestinians", coming from the Philistine pentapolis region known as the Philistia. The "pentapolis" was made up from the five city-states of Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, Gath, and Gaza. It gets confusing as there are different historical names in the Old Testament like "pelesheth" ("Philistia" Psalm 60:8 (Hebrew 10); 87:4), "erets pelishtim" ("land of the Philistines" Genesis 21:32, 34), and a few others.

The rough borders of the region are indicated in Joshua 13:2 as being from the Shihor (the "brook of Egypt") to the south, up to the border of Ekron to the northeast. The eastern border was along the Judean foothills on the line of Beth-shemesh (1 Samuel 6:9) with the sea being the border on the west.



Modern Palestinians are roughly considered to be anyone of Arab descent (read also: Muslim) who live in the segregated areas of Gaza, the West Bank or the Golan Heights.



Mary and Joseph were Nazarenes, that area has never been part of Palestine, Philistia, etc. At the time of Jesus it was in the region of Galilee.