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re: My opinion of abortion pisses off folks on both sides. Am I the only one who believes this
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:48 am to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:48 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:well basically because your 2 positions mean that you are willing to permit something you acknowledge as murder of children because you think it's beneficial to society. If you can't see how that's morally retarded I don't know what to tell you. Even the lefties realize you have to at least pretend to believe it's not murder to justify it. Taking that position means you value whaf you perceive to be the good of society over the rights and life of individuals. That never turns out well. Also, it's not even clear whether it's more damaging to society to have additional lower income people born into the world vs destroying the conscience of a society by pretending that murdering children is ok in any context. I think the second half of the 20th century is a pretty good example of how fast a society decays when they abandon morality
1. I believe that abortion is murder and that fact is not debatable.
2. I believe that an abortion ban is detrimental to society as it will lead to many more dirtbag adults who will be living on government welfare.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 11:56 am
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:52 am to Eli Goldfinger
No you are not the only one who feels that way. It's morally reprehensible but in our society void of morals, decency, and responsibility it may be a necessary evil.
Ultimately though you have to make a choice, given these two unpalatable options I side with the spiritual rather than earthly realm.
Ultimately though you have to make a choice, given these two unpalatable options I side with the spiritual rather than earthly realm.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:09 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I have always felt exact same way
That’s why we need Welfare Queen “free-money per kid” policies changed.
Some welfare queens are even known to tell their kids to act special in school, act up, be crazy etc… the ones that have found out that you get extra money per kid that gets into special needs (the street name for this is “crazy check”)
TRUE STORY, I seen it up close and personal.
That’s why we need Welfare Queen “free-money per kid” policies changed.
Some welfare queens are even known to tell their kids to act special in school, act up, be crazy etc… the ones that have found out that you get extra money per kid that gets into special needs (the street name for this is “crazy check”)
TRUE STORY, I seen it up close and personal.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:38 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
I believe that an abortion ban is detrimental to society
Perhaps. But there has never been an abortion ban in American history and there never will be. So who cares how bad it would be?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:41 pm to ronricks
quote:
can look at the statistics we have available to us and not see this. Look at the violent crime statistics. Look at the welfare statistics.
And they prove MY point. All of horrible things those statistics prove happened WITH legal abortion.
Abortion hasn't improved anything. What we need is more focus on responsibilities and civility instead of this woke B.S. where we can't correct someone's behavior. The complete lack of shame people have these days is astounding. Shame needs to make a comeback.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:44 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Man, idgaf about abortion as I’m not really a religious type.
But I just don’t wanna live in some Christian Taliban type state. I know we’re not there yet but with all the talk about secession and shite I’m pretty sure some posters would be ok with it
But I just don’t wanna live in some Christian Taliban type state. I know we’re not there yet but with all the talk about secession and shite I’m pretty sure some posters would be ok with it
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:55 pm to mtntiger
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This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 5:33 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:42 pm to mtntiger
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And they prove MY point. All of horrible things those statistics prove happened WITH legal abortion.
Without Abortion those statistics would be even higher. Get out of here with your ‘feel good’ bullshite.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:46 pm to ronricks
quote:
1. I believe that abortion is murder and that fact is not debatable. 2. I believe that an abortion ban is detrimental to society as it will lead to many more dirtbag adults who will be living on government welfare.
You are essentially saying murder of innocents is beneficial to society.
The mental gymnastics to get to this is impressive.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 2:26 pm to bigDgator
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How can you make people become responsible if they don't want to be?
Let them starve?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 2:27 pm to Meursault
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When my wife was bleeding out we had to make a choice between 2 deaths or 1. Today she would be put in prison. That doesn’t seem right to me.
So your the exception not the rule. And, most states will allow abortion in your case. Drama much?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 2:45 pm to captdalton
quote:
So you want the U.S. government to get into the sterilization game? I am sure it would just go great.
Get in the game? They’ve been in the game for years, I just want snippy snips of repo organs for govt cheese.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 2:52 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I agree with the OP. I am not totally against abortion. I do not want to see people use it as the main form of birth control, but I also am not totally against it up to a certain point...somewhere between 12-15 weeks.
I agree that the World does not need more and more people. Especially Democrat free loaders and voters.
My whole issue with Roe vs Wade was that it was not settled law and it was not in the Constitution. Neither is Birther Babies. Both should be handled by elected bodies of Congress. They have chosen to give abortion to the states, but I would have been fine with a healthy debate and then a firm compromise.
Not up to the point of birth.
I agree that the World does not need more and more people. Especially Democrat free loaders and voters.
My whole issue with Roe vs Wade was that it was not settled law and it was not in the Constitution. Neither is Birther Babies. Both should be handled by elected bodies of Congress. They have chosen to give abortion to the states, but I would have been fine with a healthy debate and then a firm compromise.
Not up to the point of birth.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 2:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
what ethnicity/race were highest for receiving aid?
and which race has the highest abortion rates?
and which race has the highest abortion rates?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 2:59 pm to Bass Tiger
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You’re 2nd position doesn’t have to be the case. If progressivism/Marxism is crushed in America then people will need to work if they’re able bodied.
You say this as if it's a good thing
I'll be happy when we advance enough as a society to where we're all working much less
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:01 pm to Powerman
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I'll be happy when we advance enough as a society to where we're all working much less
Do you really believe people are happier without work/responsibilities?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:03 pm to David_DJS
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Do you really believe people are happier without work/responsibilities?
I said work less. Would you rather work 30 hours a week or 70 hours a week?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:06 pm to Powerman
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I said work less. Would you rather work 30 hours a week or 70 hours a week?
Depends on the work. If it's something I can choose for myself and rewards (not just financial) are correlated to input, I'd rather work 50 hours per week than 30.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:10 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:Our views are nearly identical, except that I replace “heartbeat” (which occurs at 6 weeks and is meaningless vis-a-vis legal rights, since all mammals have a heartbeat) with “higher brain function” (which occurs at about 25 weeks and ties directly to cognition, the thing that separates us from all other animals).
SouthEasternKaiju
Yet many here will argue with a straight face that your view is entirely reasonable, while mine is inherently evil.
And they will also insist that choosing “heartbeat” as a criterion is objective, while choosing “higher brain function” is not.
It is laughable.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:14 pm to AggieHank86
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Yet many here will argue with a straight face that your view is entirely reasonable, while mine is inherently evil.
Or take the “from conception” so both of your views are lukewarm and equally reprehensible.
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