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My opinion of abortion pisses off folks on both sides. Am I the only one who believes this

Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:50 pm
1. I believe that abortion is murder and that fact is not debatable.

2. I believe that an abortion ban is detrimental to society as it will lead to many more dirtbag adults who will be living on government welfare.

Why is it that believing both of these things simultaneously is so maddening to my peers on both sides of the aisle?
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11277 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:52 pm to
Pfizer is taking care of number 2.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45979 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

1. I believe that abortion is murder and that fact is not debatable.

2. I believe that an abortion ban is detrimental to society as it will lead to many more dirtbag adults who will be living on government welfare.



You’re 2nd position doesn’t have to be the case. If progressivism/Marxism is crushed in America then people will need to work if they’re able bodied.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16277 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:53 pm to
Murder doesn't become okay because the victim can't speak and it's convenient.

Well, unless you are a Clinton.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69246 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:54 pm to
This country had abortion bans until 1973.

Yet the percentage of people who were on public aid was astronomically minuscule in the 1800s and early 1900s compared to post 1973

So your hypothesis is wrong
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31626 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:57 pm to
Yeah that’s not what I believe.

I think this court is looking at it the right way. Who knows if it’s murder or whatever, but if there is a right to it, it’s not one that the framers of our government would have recognized, so if the people want abortion to be available, let them decide by politics.

All this “attack on women” nonsense is totally fricked.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19272 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Why is it that believing both of these things simultaneously is so maddening to my peers on both sides of the aisle?





Because your belief would make murder of poor people and undesirables ok. That's horrific.
Posted by Reservoir Ag
Member since Dec 2020
3572 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:58 pm to
Your 2nd point was taken from Freakinomics where the author shows how crime suddenly and mysteriously began to subside 18 years after Roe v Wade was codified.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:59 pm to
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So your hypothesis is wrong


The US gov wasn’t as deep into the welfare state business as it now is.

If you look at welfare states around the world pre & post abortion band, my argument is irrefutable.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34002 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:59 pm to
Both are true.

Still, I’m against killing innocents.

That is all.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:00 pm to
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18 years after Roe v Wade was codified.


No…and Roe was never codified.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

My opinion of abortion pisses off folks on both sides. Am I the only one who believes this
1. I believe that abortion is murder and that fact is not debatable.

2. I believe that an abortion ban is detrimental to society as it will lead to many more dirtbag adults who will be living on government welfare.

Why is it that believing both of these things simultaneously is so maddening to my peers on both sides of the aisle?


You are saying it is good to kill those that will become dirtbags. You condone murder.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:16 pm to
A person can think what they want..except
You are a fricking moron if you think there is no life in a fetus once conception happens.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17525 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:22 pm to
You're merging the two ideas. Yes, 1 may cause 2, but you can't change your opinion of 1 because of 2.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:24 pm to
I can

I do

Kind of
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21680 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

My opinion of abortion pisses off folks on both sides.


You sound like hank.


Don’t do that.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:28 pm to
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I believe that an abortion ban is detrimental to society as it will lead to many more dirtbag adults who will be living on government welfare.


Sounds like you’re calling them undesirables. Someone help me out here. Where have I heard that term applied before to justify the extermination of said undesirables?
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
5809 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:43 pm to
3. People who get abortions are generally pretty trashy
Posted by RedDirtSooner
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
699 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:03 am to
You are looking at it from the wrong perspective. What you are really saying is “I believe in personal responsibility”. If people practiced personal responsibility none of this would be an issue.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41146 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:03 am to
I agree wholeheartedly. Many of those people are disgusting and shouldn't have children. Abortion is wrong though, but there are too many of them for decent folk to take care of.

What to do?
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