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re: Mother in Law is fully vaxxed. Positive Covid with symptoms.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:42 am to fastlane
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:42 am to fastlane
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Happened to me too. What a joke.
But the symptoms did go away quickly.
This is the thing...I had COVID and it was a case of the sniffles. I was on vacation and still partied everyday and did not realize I was sick with COVID until the end of the week. The only thing that tipped me off was my taste and smell were way off.
It's the weirdest virus. Can be very mild for some or deadly for others.
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Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:42 am to GumboPot
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That's for the general population. Is the vaccine worth it, really?
For at-risk individuals, it absolutely is. If your risk of Covid death is 8% and you can cut your risk of being infected by 30%, you should. (This assumes that there’s any long-term protection from the vaccine.)
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:43 am to weadjust
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The vaccine seems to preventing a lot of deaths in MS long term health care facilities
Or the Delta variant is behaving like all historical viruses.
The more contagious the less deadly.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:44 am to the808bass
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They keep the viral load low enough to avoid systems or in breakthrough cases, limit severity of symptoms.
Bzzzzt
Do we think this can't be true because there's a relationship between symptoms and viral load? Therefore a breakthrough case with high viral loads have same/similar death rates? I don't really care about the vaccines one way or another just thought I'd see what you had to say.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:45 am to ell_13
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I was saying it before anyone else was in March 2020.
That link doesn't say a f*cking thing about the efficacy of these jabs of poison.
So, YEAH, you're a f*cking LIAR.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:45 am to the808bass
My sister works in healthcare, got vaccinated in March, got COVID in September.
My mom got vaccinated in March, got COVID in September.
My father-in-law got vaccinated in March, got COVID last week.
My sister-in-law is a MD in Boston, was required to get vaccinated and did so back in the Spring, tested positive for COVID on Monday of this week.
I would say now that over half of the people I know who have been vaccinated have had a breakthrough case
My mom got vaccinated in March, got COVID in September.
My father-in-law got vaccinated in March, got COVID last week.
My sister-in-law is a MD in Boston, was required to get vaccinated and did so back in the Spring, tested positive for COVID on Monday of this week.
I would say now that over half of the people I know who have been vaccinated have had a breakthrough case
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:46 am to weadjust
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The vaccine seems to preventing a lot of deaths in MS long term health care facilities
So those are all new residents?
Who were never exposed to Covid?
This is admittedly a complex issue. But pretending there’s some massive difference between outcomes for breakthrough infections for the vaccinated doesn’t really square with the emerging data.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:47 am to wutangfinancial
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Therefore a breakthrough case with high viral loads have same/similar death rates?
That’s beyond my pay grade. It sounds like a good question.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:47 am to wutangfinancial
It has to do with the average age of people who see breakthroughs. Average age is almost 50. Those people see the worst symptoms typically. The unvaxxed are younger. And the average age of unvaxxed cases is much lower. From Oregon:
More than 80% of vaccine breakthrough deaths have occurred in patients 70 years and older.
More than 80% of vaccine breakthrough deaths have occurred in patients 70 years and older.
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:49 am to ell_13
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You are wrong.
No they aren't. From the very beginning EVERYONE associated the word vaccine with the effectiveness of polio, measles, mumps, rubella, etc. In fact, it the word was so well defined that they always referenced the flu shot as a "shot", not a vaccine. Because the flu shot obviously never protected you from all strains of the flu. They openly told you that when you got the flu "shot". Your government have even changed the definition of the word "vaccine" on the CDC website. Why would they feel compelled to do that?
So when they promised the American people that they had a life saving vaccine ready to go, and the President and CDC Director both said you will not get sick, they LIED.
And now people like you keep falling back to "no vaccine is 100% effective". Well, hate to break it to you, but these vaccines are under 40% effective and that number includes those that got vaccinated after infection and their natural immunity gets included in those falling numbers.
So stop with the BS that people should have never expected lifelong immunity. They did.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:49 am to ell_13
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More than 80% of vaccine breakthrough deaths have occurred in patients 70 years and older.
Compare that to unvaccinated.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:50 am to MMauler
My point was that I’ve been saying since day one that all this is bullshite. I have zero reason to lie. All I’m saying to the op is that the vaccine has shown to be effective in keeping people out of hospitals and from dying when used on the vulnerable population. Even the data he linked shows that. I don’t think we should have mandates. Any mandates. I don’t think we should be vaccinating kids with these vaccines.
You made an assumption about me based on one post and look like a moron.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:51 am to the808bass
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It’s 0.007. That’s .7%.
The bottom right hand stat clearly says .007%
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:51 am to the808bass
quote:Bingo.
More than 80% of vaccine breakthrough deaths have occurred in patients 70 years and older.
Compare that to unvaccinated.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:52 am to League Champs
I didn’t say that the government was being honest. That was his strawman. He was wrong about his assumptions about me.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:52 am to OMLandshark
It says 0.007% of all vaccinated.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:53 am to ell_13
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It says 0.007% of all vaccinated.
Yes. It’s my point. While I’m probably even less than that being a healthy young person, that’s just on average for everyone.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:53 am to OMLandshark
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The bottom right hand stat clearly says .007%
That’s of all unvaccinated.
The number of vaccinated/infected will cross over 1% this week for Massachusetts.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:54 am to the808bass
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Got vaccinated in February.
Eight months...
That's not a vaccine, it's a stalling tactic.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:55 am to OMLandshark
It is sad that you still trust those numbers.
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