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re: Milei goes all in for the Falkland/Malvinas islands

Posted on 9/4/26 at 2:35 am to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144767 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 2:35 am to
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The people that live there now are ethnically from the british isles. Of course they want to stay with the UK.


Ethnically, I am English. The UK can suck my American wiener.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
4041 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 4:02 am to
Wait until the UK sends their ship to threaten Milei. If it is no longer in dry dock.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
13430 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 4:15 am to
There’s a reason American billionaires are buying property/housing in Argentina. They see it as an eventual safe haven for when our country is overrun by Illegal Immigrants and our society is destroyed by ‘diversity’. Argentina has none of and wants none of that. They value their own culture and people and are willing to only accept those who can pay their own way.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57703 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 6:21 am to
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I’m not sure how England justifies their claim on these islands or why they even want to continue holding them.

Okay, but Puerto Rico? And at one time Hawaii?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
20528 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 6:58 am to
Argentina is trying to grow, I can’t say that about uk
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58996 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 8:49 am to
People are British and overwhelmingly voted to remain British. Government sucks right now but it should stay British.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
5336 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:07 am to
More aggressive expansionist bullshite

Nearly all of the people who live on the Falklands identify as British and would rather be under UK rule than Argentinian rule.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5454 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:13 am to
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Nearly all of the people who live on the Falklands identify as British and would rather be under UK rule than Argentinian rule.


If the British started shipping Muslim immigrants there, and they had to endure the hell that people in London are, do you think they would feel the same?

Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
64593 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:15 am to
Good

Argentina is a better ally than the UK
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38765 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:58 am to
Would be funny if the UK said, " You want it???? Sold"
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64116 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:30 am to
I hope Argentina moves on them. The British are in no condition to stop them, but would beg the US to do their work for them.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2666 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:32 am to
The UK would destroy them. The UK is not in good shape militarily, but Argentina is on a whole other level of crap.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57703 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:32 am to
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Argentina has no claim whatsoever to the islands. Ever—at any historical point.

That’s not true. There is a lot of confusion over who had the rights to the Falklands, the UK or Spain. When Argentina got independence from Spain they argue that the Falklands were part of that, and they ruled the Falklands for several decades before the British reasserted their control.

I’m not saying Argentina’s claim is convincing, but to say they have “no claim whatsoever” is not accurate. Ultimately, this is a might-makes-right argument.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
132141 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:34 am to
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During the Falkland War, the residents of the island were nearly unanimous wanting to stay a subject of the UK.

Has that changed?


Argentina's currency is worthless, while the British Pound is doing well despite the state of the UK.

I seriously doubt they prefer to be a part of Argentina
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
132141 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:35 am to
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The British are in no condition to stop them


They are in much better shape than Argentina.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
34262 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Argentina is a better ally than the UK



That is for certain right now
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64838 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:53 am to
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When Argentina got independence from Spain they argue that the Falklands were part of that, and they ruled the Falklands for several decades before the British reasserted their control.


Eh, more like a period of three and a half years before the British reasserted control in 1833.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57703 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Eh, more like a period of three and a half years before the British reasserted control in 1833.

quote:

In 1770, Spain seized Port Egmont and expelled the British, citing the agreement with France. The British maintained that that agreement applied only to East Falkland. In 1771, a British naval force retook West Falkland, meeting no opposition. In 1774, faced with more urgent naval matters elsewhere, Britain withdrew from its base, albeit without relinquishing its claims. From 1800 until 1820, the Falklands were abandoned to feral cattle and to seal hunters of several nations. Meanwhile, the Spanish colonies proclaimed their independence. During the long process of consolidation and establishment of boundaries for the newly independent states, a naval officer in the service of Buenos Aires landed at Port Louis in 1820. He claimed the Falklands for his employers and left a garrison there. In 1826, the newly constituted Republic of Argentina granted a charter to Louis Vernet, a German-born immigrant, to found a settlement. By 1831, this settlement was a viable concern, with about one hundred civilian inhabitants cultivating the soil and exploiting wild cattle. Conflicts arose between Vernet and sealers who wantonly slaughtered seals and cattle. To combat this behavior, the Argentine government officially appointed Vernet governor and empowered him to seize offenders. In 1831, after repeatedly warning American sealers to stay away, he seized one of their ships and sent the crew to Buenos Aires for prosecution. America responded predictably. A gunboat under the command of Captain Silas Duncan attacked and sacked Port Soledad, formerly Port Louis. The U.S. government backed his actions, refusing to compensate Vernet. In 1832, the British reviewed the situation in the Falkland Islands and Argentina. The infant Republic of Argentina was engaged in a civil war, as its dictator, Juan Manuel de Rosas, consolidated his power. Thus, though Argentina arguably had a legitimate territorial claim, it lacked the ability to enforce it. Moreover, given the record of aggressive American territorial expansion and the rivalry between Britain and America over whale fisheries and access to markets on the Pacific coast of South America, the British viewed the attack on Port Soledad as a possible prelude to American occupation. They therefore dispatched the warship Clio, which arrived in January of 1833. Finding Port Soledad apparently deserted, the British declared the Falklands to be without effective sovereignty and raised the British flag over the islands. Argentina disputed the claim, as Vernet’s agent was still present, along with some of the settlers and a few troops.


From 1774 to 1833 there were no British on the Falklands. From 1820 to 1833 it was ruled by Argentina.
EBSCO Research Paper

There is nothing conclusive about this, except that it shows that “Argentina has zero claim” to be wrong.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 3:13 pm
Posted by CupidStunts
Member since Aug 2026
20 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 4:06 pm to
Now's your chance to take the islands Argentina. The once mighty Royal Navy has now morphed into a junkyard navy. There's no Margaret Thatcher around this time either with balls bigger than the latest flavor of the week British PM.
Posted by CupidStunts
Member since Aug 2026
20 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 4:07 pm to
Too late. 30 years too late.
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