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re: Meloni Condemns Fascist Nostalgia Amid Scandal in Her Party’s Youth Wing

Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:44 am to
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:44 am to
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I don't think either "essentially live in Washington", FWIW


Come on. One is running for president.

Obama, last I read, is one of the only former presidents to ever reside in the DC area after he left office. Yes he’s got house in the vineyard and Hawaii but let’s not be naive regarding his influence.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:44 am to
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What political movement that previously ran our country would you similarly fear our young voters harkening back to?

Nothing requires being referential. We're too young to really have that sort of history anyway.
Posted by Gifman
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:45 am to
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You never use those correctly It's becoming part of your brand now.


He has no sense of humor. Even worse, he thinks he does.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476858 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:45 am to
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I think you meant to say he used examples that made the media look very very bad.

Sure, and I called each of those correctly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
476858 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:45 am to
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You never use those correctly

It's just the new post. His post wasn't as straw-many, but it was a white flag post.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:45 am to
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Then do the job you were elected to do. Native Italians want their nation protected and preserved. Take away that safety naturally forces people to find other means.


This really needs to be restated.

When the domestic populace voices their concern against an incompatible culture being forced on them and their voices are ignored, they will become more ardent until they are acknowledged through action or they will become more radicalized.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:46 am to
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He has no sense of humor.

What the frick?

May be the dumbest take of the poli board in 10 years.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65436 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:47 am to
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And this isn't some political stunt like David Duke endorsing Trump. These are actual party members
You sure? Like the actor hired by the opposition who was 'caught on camera' saying racist things while pretending to be a Farage canvasser?

You might want to pick another target. Meloni is cucked as shite. She was all gung ho deportation, but after a meeting with some globalist bankers, she's all about the migration.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110957 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:47 am to
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Nothing requires being referential. We're too young to really have that sort of history anyway.


I’m not sure what you’re getting at. It certainly doesn’t seem to answer my question.

You are somehow fearing something parallel here, when I’m simply not seeing what there possibly is so.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:47 am to
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This really needs to be restated.

When the domestic populace voices their concern against an incompatible culture being forced on them and their voices are ignored, they will become more ardent until they are acknowledged through action or they will become more radicalized.

That is what Meloni is doing

The scandal is not exactly doing this, hence why Meloni and the party had to come out and publicly condemn it.

There's a bit of conflation in that post
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:47 am to
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Sure, and I called each of those correctly.


And when nothing comes of this you'll pretend you were never concerned here, either.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:48 am to
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You sure?


Yes

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Two members of the youth section, Elisa Segnini and Flaminia Pace, who were featured in the report, left their official roles


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476858 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:50 am to
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I’m not sure what you’re getting at. It certainly doesn’t seem to answer my question.

Nothing requires anything referential to our past.

Our past is not old enough to have enough to reference, unlike Europe.

We can't even do folk horror well because of this.

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You are somehow fearing something parallel here,

Yes. Actual extremists feigning support of milquetoast MAGA and getting roles in the executive after Trump wins.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476858 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:50 am to
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And when nothing comes of this

Something already came of the report in OP. Meloni had to make an embarssing statement
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110957 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:54 am to
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Nothing requires anything referential to our past.

Our past is not old enough to have enough to reference, unlike Europe.


They are ostensibly referencing the ancient history from the 1930s-1940s here.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:54 am to
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That is what Meloni is doing


I haven't followed Italian politics so I have no idea if she's been standing up to the EU pressures of open-ish borders or not.

I would wager that what most are wanting, after being subjected to wave after wave of illegals, is the standard Poland has set. If Italians aren't getting something close to that, they are going to radicalize as they any attempt at a "compromise" (ie: something being significantly less) as an attempt to appease the elites in Brussels over fulfilling the will of the Italian people.

We see that here as residents of even left-leaning areas (like NYC and Chicago) have started reversing their stance on illegal immigration (as it begins to more directly impact them, of course).
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:55 am to
Let me know when there are stories about leftist radicals and I'll take it seriously.


Right now we see Euro and American leftists doing crazy insane shite and then we get a "right wing pounce" story or "white supremacy problem on the right" story.


I don't care about this at all and Italy needs more people go take pride in their people and country because the international security elites want their borders destroyed.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28143 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:56 am to
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Something already came of the report in OP. Meloni had to make an embarssing statement


And the Department of Justice investigated Trump for years.

I'm speaking of something bad occurring, like these youths attacking a Jewish gathering or something similar.

You're claiming this is a big deal, I'm claiming it's a media embellishment meant to smear conservatives on this side of the pond and you're all too eager to take part in it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115436 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:58 am to
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Stop with the obsession with Obama. He hasn't been President in almost 8 years.


Technically accurate. Factually wrong.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
80896 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:58 am to
Good for her.

She's someone they respect and hopefully they'll listen when she says "this isn't who we are".
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