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re: Massie Tries to Impeach the SecDef

Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:09 pm to
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Hegseth doesn’t fall under the UCMJ and Massie can’t initiate a charge under the UCMJ to begin with. Jesus Christ people on here are dumb.


Again, please don't use the Lord's name in vain.

As a retired officer, Hegseth is still subject to the UCMJ in the same way that Senator Mark Kelly is subject to the UCMJ.

I said that I couldn't see a legal theory for "High Crime, etc." unless it was some wild theory about taking a UCMJ violation and claiming that was the High Crime.

That's one of the serious problems with Massie’s attempt. See...logic, not tribalism.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:11 pm to
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Not dude. They voteed and didn’t pass. Multiple times now. Again you’re a moron.


Aside from the fact that's not how it works to start with according to the constitution.

It passed the house.

AKA it could not and would not pass the house if done properly according to the constitution.

Let me guess, you don't care about the constitution because you aren't a conservative.



Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
5482 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:11 pm to
Stop acting like a Christian when you’re a pos with extreme hate for Trump and his supporters.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:12 pm to
Wrong the senate voted on war powers multiple times initiated by Massie himself. Each time they couldn’t get the vote to end it. Again do homework and know what you’re talking about.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39890 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:17 pm to
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Wrong the senate voted on war powers multiple times initiated by Massie himself. Each time they couldn’t get the vote to end it. Again do homework and know what you’re talking about.


Massie is a member of the house, not a member of the senate.

In order for anything he initiates to reach the senate, it has to pass the house first.

UNLESS another senator can introduce a companion bill in the senate.

However, the house passed the bill. So again, both the house and senate did not vote against it.

Which is to say, you could not get a proper vote on the war if it was attempted and the war does not have congressional approval.


This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 5:18 pm
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:20 pm to
You're right. I shouldn't have called you an idiot. You haven't earned it.

Apologies.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70606 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:21 pm to
Summary execution of people who were taking cocaine from Venezuela to Trinidad based on a ginned up terror threat is wild. But, I am more interested in the Iran war powers angle as the executive needs to be reined in here.
This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:23 pm to
now kiss
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:25 pm to
Something you will never see, the Democratic Socialists attacking any of their comrades......with the possible exception of Fetterman.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39890 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:26 pm to
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Summary execution of people who were taking cocaine from Venezuela to Trinidad based on a ginned up terror threat is wild. But, I am more interested in the war powers angle as the executive needs to be reined in here.


I agree the war powers is the more important issue.

But the execution thing is something Obama would do with drones and shite too, and it shouldn't be allowed. I don't know why that suddenly became acceptable. I'd like to see it reined in as well.

I don't know much about the infighting. I'm sure that place is probably loaded with people who need to go, but I have no way of knowing who those people are, and if that is what he is really doing. So I just don't have much opinion on that.

But I do know the saying - if you meet 3 assholes before lunch, you're the a-hole.

Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:41 pm to
This guy is an idiot like cornyn.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2390 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:43 pm to
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I agree with Massie on Epstein Files and the War Powers Act, so, I guess that qualifies me as a Bro.


WHY DO YOU WANT TO HOLD OUR SIDE ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!!
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:44 pm to
HEAVEN FORBID YOU CRITICIZE DEAR LEADER!
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11226 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:48 pm to
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You're right. I shouldn't have called you an idiot. You haven't earned it.

Apologies.


Much appreciated. Apology accepted. I get heated as well sometimes.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60648 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:51 pm to
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Also, I would say there's a 5% chance of conviction in the Senate.


Maybe 0.5%. If that.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60648 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:53 pm to
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So again, you support Mike Johnson blocking the spending cut.


What? Please link to me making that statement. I can think Johnson is a POS and that Massie is a POS.

quote:

It wasn't dems who duped him


He was duped none the less and was the deciding vote in committee. Glad he won’t be able to get duped like that and F us over again.
This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 5:55 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:54 pm to
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Massie Bros.

Massie bros are just democrats LARPing as conservatives
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11226 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:56 pm to
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The SecDef doesn't make policy. He carries it out. Mashole knows this.


That's why he styled it as following illegal orders.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2390 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:58 pm to
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HEAVEN FORBID YOU CRITICIZE DEAR LEADER!


Oh, y'all do some crying over someone criticizing or calling out Trump. Especially when it's over him completely disregarding promises.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
43185 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:59 pm to
This thread is about Thomas Massie trying to impeach Pete Hegseth for orders given to him by his Commander in Chief Donald Trump.
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