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re: Massie (an incumbent) lost by 10 points. Sean Davis nails why on X.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Crazy if so. It’s an admission that MAGA has become fully co-opted into the Epstein class.
So that's it? Passing the Epstein transparency Act means he changed?
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:37 pm to goatmilker
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If Slo is ranting about this lose then its a win for Kentucky.
That ambulance chasing nut case is absolutely getting beat up stumping for Masshole
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:38 pm to goatmilker
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If Slo is ranting
More like raving. Ranting can imply some coherence and rational thinking. SFP is just being his usual dimwitted self and spamming the board.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:38 pm to BTROleMisser
quote:No, he correctly identified it as an Israeli operation at a time when Trump was calling it a 'democrat hoax.'
Massie jumped on the "muh Trump is a pedophile and it's in the Epstien files"
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:34 pm to Taxing Authority
Thats actually funny considering Kevin McCarthy was a dyed in the wool Boehner acolyte
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
I consider Massie a guy who talks a good game but doesnt do frick.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:38 pm to goatmilker
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Nailed it. He changed his voters did not.
Are we talking about Trump?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Voters perceiving him differently shows they changed.
Or they perceived him differently because he changed.
I know you’ll never consider this.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:40 pm to GeauxTigers123
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Explain to me why so few cared about realizing info on Epstein during the Biden tenure. But once Trump got back in it became a drum beat.
been watching the replies to this post for a couple hours and we are 4 pages in and still at ZERO (until mine).
interesting.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:27 pm to LuckyTiger
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I know you’ll never consider this.
I've considered it a great deal but am waiting on this evidence to support the position. About the only thing people could come up with was the Epstein files legislation, but they can't explain why this is bad, especially as he didn't directly implicate Trump in it.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
You sure are invested in this subject. Proof is in this very thread.
A reasonable person would ask why?
A reasonable person would ask why?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:41 pm to CAD703X
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been watching the replies to this post for a couple hours and we are 4 pages in and still at ZERO (until mine).
Yeah and I’m not here to defend how Bondi handled it all (the silly binder release before a real release). But why weren’t Massie and others yelling about it weekly during Biden’s term?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:43 pm to goatmilker
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You sure are invested in this subject.
Yes, as a huge proponent of small government conservatism, MAGA's outright rejection of that officially is a big deal to me.
Combine that with the shift to all out neocon interventionist policies and we are in a strange, new world.
This lack of actual policy positions has been fascinating to me since MAGA formed in 2016 with the same issues. Now they've undergone two huge 180s in the past 3 months and are a GOPE-Democrat hybrid
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:45 pm to CAD703X
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been watching the replies to this post for a couple hours and we are 4 pages in and still at ZERO (until mine).
interesting.
Some people are rejecting the irrelevant whataboutism of MAGA, especially when it's an attempt to divert focus from meaningful discussion.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Analyzing why they changed and what influenced the change is the fun part, now.
Massie became an insufferable narcissistic jackass.
Most normal people don't like insufferable narcissistic jackasses.
The fact you can't comprehend this, and also can't connect this fact to why you're massively downvoted in virtually every post you make is not surprising.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Such an obstructionist!
Yes, as a huge proponent of small government conservatism, MAGA's outright rejection of that officially is a big deal to me.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:48 pm to Centinel
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Massie became an insufferable narcissistic jackass.
He's always been that guy.
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and also can't connect this fact to why you're massively downvoted in virtually every post
No I understand irrationality, especially with the low IQ types who flooded this board in the Q era. This 180 in support isn't shocking to me given the demographic changes.
Trust me, as a person who was once celebrated for having the same policy positions now making me the villain, I find this Massie Derangement Syndrome era fascinating.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The post argues against itself without realizing how.
Voters perceiving him differently shows they changed
We debated this in the other thread and you are content on going down the same silly path. You still think that it's everyone else's fault but Massie's why he lost.
Here is a post from a poster who voted in that primary.
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To start, I ended up voting for Massie yesterday. I had waffled back and forth, the decision could have been a lot easier if they picked someone that seemed a little less NeoConish than Gallrein, but I probably could have gone either way. I had family and friends that went separated ways as well.
I will say that Massie losing was clearly his own doing. No one worked harder to get him out of office than Thomas Massie. He simply stopped trying to do his job and represent his constituents and work within the framework of our political system to push his ideas and agendas forward. He chose to go on a self-destructive mission, that often times looked to be driven more by personal qualms than any sort of principles.
The optics just simply were not there for him. It appeared he was doing everything in his power to make Trump ineffective, which was not going to fly in a district that overwhelmingly voted for Trump to get his agenda pushed.
This goes back to the classic problem with libertarianism. It’s great at offering critiques of existing policies. But absolutely terrible at coming up with concrete action plans “that will actually work in reality” on how to get their agenda passed.
I argued with a friend last night about the situation. Said friend is totally ate up about the debt clock and how we have to roll it back, etc etc… which I don’t disagree with any of his wishes and goals. However I had to continue to remind him that it is not achievable with the level of immigration and makeup of our demographics and electorate. So until we go back to an electorate that resembles early America, we have to work within the confines of massive debt. There is no other option presently available.
But it still everyone else's fault, right?
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