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Massie (an incumbent) lost by 10 points. Sean Davis nails why on X.

Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:30 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:30 am


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Why did Massie lose tonight? Massie went from principled libertarian during COVID, to GOP leadership lapdog under McCarthy, to anti-Trump Epstein obsessive in 2025 after tweeting about that issue a whopping three (3) times in the decade prior. The nail in the coffin for him was voting against OBBB in 2025 because, according to Massie, it did too much to secure the border. Trump mercilessly trashed Massie in 2020–calling him a “disaster” for America and Kentucky and saying he should be thrown out of the GOP entirely—but Massie easily swatted that away and won 81-19, so you can’t say he only lost because of Trump. He went toe-to-toe with Trump on COVID in 2020 and won overwhelmingly. Massie lost because he went from being perceived as a quirky but lovable nerd who seemed to genuinely believe everything he said, to looking like a clout-chasing influencer who cared more about getting TV time with Democrats on an issue he clearly never cared about until five minutes ago than he did about representing his voters. We’ll never know what caused the apparent personality change—maybe it was the death of his wife, maybe it was the McCarthy race followed by McCarthy’s ouster, or maybe it was a desire for notoriety or media acclaim and a lucrative podcasting career outside of Congress—but the drastic change was undeniable, as was the seeming lack of interest in much of anything happening in Kentucky. Blame Trump, blame Israel, blame Epstein, blame the tragic death of a spouse, I don’t care. But you cannot just wave away 2020 Massie going face-to-face with the Trump machine and winning in a rout only to get smoked six years later. Massie’s voters didn’t really change all that much, but he did, and they noticed.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 11:34 am
Posted by The Baker
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:31 am to
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to anti-Trump Epstein obsessive


How TF did this ever become conflated...

I can't support Trump and hate Epstein?

I have to defend both?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477115 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:32 am to
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Massie lost because he went from being perceived


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Massie’s voters didn’t really change all that much


The post argues against itself without realizing how.

Voters perceiving him differently shows they changed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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477115 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:33 am to
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How TF did this ever become conflated...

I can't support Trump and hate Epstein?

I have to defend both?


Massie Derangement Syndrome doesn't' rely on logic or rationality.

Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18901 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:41 am to
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Massie Derangement Syndrome




Do you think he’ll co-host a podcast with Tucker or do his own? He might be doing only fans too this time next year.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3690 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:43 am to
Explain to me why so few cared about realizing info on Epstein during the Biden tenure. But once Trump got back in it became a drum beat.

I think it has to do with protecting elites during Biden term and then trying to smear Trump during Trump 2.0. They never thought Trump would make it back into office.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:44 am to
He might make some money if includes Boebert.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:48 am to
Nailed it. He changed his voters did not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477115 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:49 am to
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He changed


Cite the policy changes since November 2024
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5803 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:50 am to
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Massie Derangement Syndrom




Massie did this to himself
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 11:51 am
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
76516 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:51 am to
Ask the voters of Kentucky who dumped him not me. I live in beautiful republican NW Florida.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:52 am to
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Massie Derangement Syndrome doesn't' rely on logic or rationality.


just hahahahahahahahahaha
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2412 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:55 am to
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to anti-Trump Epstein obsessive in 2025 after tweeting about that issue a whopping three (3) times in the decade prior.


That is why I have negative view of the guy. On that issue he was basically a rabid TDS Democrat. Never talked about Epstein during the Biden years and suddenly it was the most important thing in the history of the universe.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:55 am to
If Slo is ranting about this lose then its a win for Kentucky.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:55 am to
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Massie


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477115 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:56 am to
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Ask the voters of Kentucky who dumped him not me.


Analyzing why they changed and what influenced the change is the fun part, now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:56 am to
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If Slo is ranting


I'm not
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26652 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:56 am to
Why are you capping it at Nov 2024? Massie was significantly losing voters in his own district the last 3 voting cycles. Something changed and it was before all the Epstein shite.




Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23232 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:57 am to


Even Biden went "toe to toe" with POTUS Trump in 2020 and got 81,000,000 plus votes, the most ever in a POTUS election.

Are you saying 2020 was an election with 100% legal votes only?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477115 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:57 am to
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On that issue he was basically a rabid TDS Democrat. Never talked about Epstein during the Biden years and suddenly it was the most important thing in the history of the universe.


Did Massie ever directly link Trump to any illegality re: Epstein?
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