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re: Macron says he had a ‘difficult’ meeting with President Trump

Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:52 am to
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47102 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:52 am to
My tax money is neither to be given to Zelenskyy, or for Macron to decide how it should be spent
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
38626 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:42 am to
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Macron


and especially ...

quote:

Zelensky


fatigue
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17356 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:48 am to
"My tax money is neither to be given to Zelenskyy, or for Macron to decide how it should be spent."

When in America I spend much of my time in the NYC area so this I will admit might be some thing you in Louisiana never saw. It might be a "NYC Metro Only" ad but if I recall correctly it was for a car fixer upper service and the tage/slogan was "you can pay me know or pay him (a sketchy looking mechanic) later". This is Ukraine. If we don't stop Putin now we will "pay him later". By the way has it not occurred to anyone that partly at least some of the success that Iran has been having in Hormuz is due to Russia feeding the intelligence, satellite data, etc. Every thing that weakens Russia is a good thing for America.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24214 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:50 am to
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Trump told Macron he would place 100% tariff on all French wine /champagne exported to the US unless Macron drops the 3% tax on all US digital companies."

Didn't SCOTUS rule that Trump can't do stuff like this, that Tariffs are a congressional thing?


SCOTUS ruled that the particular way Trump installed tariffs wasn't ok.
There's other ways he can do it.


Grok:

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It was not a total ban on all presidential tariffs, just on using IEEPA/emergency powers this broadly for them. Existing tariffs under other laws were unaffected.

cfr.org

Other Ways Trump (or Any President) Can Impose TariffsCongress has passed several specific laws that do delegate tariff authority, often with procedures, limits, or required investigations. Trump and prior administrations have used (and can continue to use) these:

congress.gov

Section 232 (Trade Expansion Act of 1962): For national security threats. Commerce Department investigates; President can impose tariffs/quotas on specific goods (e.g., steel, aluminum, cars, copper). Broad discretion on what counts as "national security," but tied to specific products/sectors, not blanket global tariffs.

bhfs.com

Section 301 (Trade Act of 1974): For unfair foreign trade practices (e.g., discrimination, violations of agreements, or actions burdening U.S. commerce). U.S. Trade Representative investigates; President can respond with tariffs (often country-specific, like on China). Can last years and be extended. Widely used.

skadden.com

Section 122 (Trade Act of 1974): For large and serious U.S. balance-of-payments deficits or international payments issues. Allows temporary across-the-board tariffs (up to 15%) or quotas for up to 150 days (can be extended by Congress). Trump quickly pivoted to this after the ruling for a baseline tariff.

piie.com

Section 201 (Trade Act of 1974): For import surges harming U.S. industries. International Trade Commission investigates; President can impose temporary tariffs/safeguards (typically 4+ years max).


Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4481 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 9:07 am to
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If we don't stop Putin now we will "pay him later". By the way has it not occurred to anyone that partly at least some of the success that Iran has been having in Hormuz is due to Russia feeding the intelligence, satellite data, etc. Every thing that weakens Russia is a good thing for America.


Too in depth analysis for this board. It's obviously just Obama/Hunter Biden/Burisma started the war. Easy sound bites for simple minds.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5782 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 9:22 am to
France is like every other EU country - fighting to keep from being overrun by islamic invaders. The natives in the UK have had enough.....they're rebelling.

President Trump doesn't like people who surrender their culture, their values to Islam.

Macron is as fake as an American three dollar bill. His effeminate ways reminds me of Gavin Newscum.

France is a reminder that Globalism is an absolute failure.

Trump 2026 - Fighting to stop the spread of Islam, the globalist are fighting him


This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 9:37 am
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14427 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 9:36 am to
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quote: Trump has been critical of Zelensky and has blamed Ukraine for the start of the war.
I don’t think this is true.

I bet you think the earth is round and water is wet too!
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42994 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 9:45 am to
I’d like to know how many Iranians are hiding out in Paris.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38533 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:43 am to
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Trump has been critical of Zelensky

So have I. He still can't account for over $100,000,000,000 in US aid sent to his nation while his wife has been taking frequent Parisian vacations to go on shopping sprees for designer apparel.
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and has blamed Ukraine for the start of the war.

Disagree. The US meddling in Ukraine since before Georgia and Crimea are the reasons Russia ultimately invaded. They have proclaimed that they didn't want NATO on their doorstep and would take action against it, but the presence of the US and our bolstering of Ukraine put NATO on their doorstep anyway, via proxy. W. Bush and Obama's Presidencies share a large portion of the blame. There's a reason that Russia sat on their hands and made no moves during the first Trump term, and then made their move during the fraudulently installed potato's term.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47102 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:40 pm to
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I will admit might be some thing you in Louisiana never saw.


I have been to NYC many times. I moved to FL 25 years ago.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
14799 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 3:54 pm to
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The tension in their one-on-one meeting is reflective of the strained relationship Trump has with Macron and other European leaders, who remain frustrated that the American president started a war with Iran, has threatened to annex Greenland, and expressed sympathy for Russia in its war with Ukraine.


Yes, because Macron and other western European leaders are doing such a bang up job at governing their countries.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24214 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:06 pm to
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The US meddling in Ukraine since before Georgia and Crimea are the reasons Russia ultimately invaded. They have proclaimed that they didn't want NATO on their doorstep and would take action against it, but the presence of the US and our bolstering of Ukraine put NATO on their doorstep anyway, via proxy. W. Bush and Obama's Presidencies share a large portion of the blame. There's a reason that Russia sat on their hands and made no moves during the first Trump term, and then made their move during the fraudulently installed potato's term.


This is 100% correct and has been discussed here many many times. Between the TDS infected folks and the ones that simply don't pay attention, it remains a mystery. Those types generally fall back on whatever the MSM propaganda machine tells them to think.
IMHO
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59925 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:22 pm to
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Didn't SCOTUS rule that Trump can't do stuff like this, that Tariffs are a congressional thing?


No they said the mechanism/law he relied upon for the tariffs was not the correct one. Basic facts elude you.
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 4:22 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59925 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:23 pm to
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Too in depth analysis for this board


Why don’t you give us your high-minded insight. How will we pay Putin later if he takes a portion of Ukraine back? Don’t be scared to be specific.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5245 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:34 pm to
Macron is fond of Obama since he and Barry have common ground in their men, err...I mean wives
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9810 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 5:30 pm to
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I think many are beyond tired with these little euro figs.

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Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
10943 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 5:40 pm to


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I think many are beyond tired with these little euro figs.


‘zackly …..

Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18793 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 5:58 pm to
It's convenient isn't it? The dictator who will remain a dictator as long as the war continues... rejects all avenues of legit peace negotiations in order to ensure the war continues without end.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20283 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 6:30 pm to
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They’re trying to backdoor them into censoring not only their citizens but our own by threatening them with draconian punishments and prison for the owners if they don’t play ball and only Trump/US can force them to back down


Our own government was funding this in the EU, Brazil, etc under biden, using NGOs.

When Elon said he would probably be in jail if Trump had not won....he was not kidding.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8860 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 6:45 pm to
Trump has no respect for the little weasel that married someone that looks like an old man in drag.
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