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re: Louisiana’s Total Ban on Abortion is Not The True Will of the People
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:29 am to Sulu
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:29 am to Sulu
You mean the law that was passed by the LA legislature, and signed by the LA governor that bans abortion upon RvW being overturned isn't the will of the people of LA? You stupid or something?
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:30 am to Sulu
This is why the state legislators are literally shaking at the thought of the trigger law being ruled unconstitutional, b/c then they'll have to actually create legislation AND put their names on it.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:31 am to troyt37
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You mean the law that was passed by the LA legislature, and signed by the LA governor that bans abortion upon RvW being overturned isn't the will of the people of LA? You stupid or something?
The trigger law? It was symbolic more than anything. In 2006 nobody thought that Roe had any chance of being overturned.
To put it another way, it was virtue signaling for emotional constituents.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:31 am to McLemore
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Is it?
It is if you subscribe to Machiavelli. If you can convince your opponent to compromise from a position of power, then you definitely should. Republicans are the idiots who go along
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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The trigger law? It was symbolic more than anything. In 2006 nobody thought that Roe had any chance of being overturned.
To put it another way, it was virtue signaling for emotional constituents.
Is there some wording to that effect? i guess you don't like it, but as far as I know it carries all the weight of any other bill that comes out of the legislature and is signed by the governor. Sounds like the abortionists, or maybe even some spineless, capitulating republicans want a mulligan or something.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:38 am to Sulu
quote:Then they should elect different representatives and change the law.
I believe Louisiana’s law is outside of the will of the people
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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The trigger law? It was symbolic more than anything. In 2006 nobody thought that Roe had any chance of being overturned.
Really neat argument... So I suppose the founders had no idea about the internet, otherwise they would have curbed free speech a little...
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:39 am to the808bass
Your poll took in a whole 0.014% of Louisiana's population.
isidewith...website
Larger sample size over a longer period of time.
54% pro life
46% pro choice
(With 8% of "pro-life" agreeing to the rape, incest, danger to mother situation)
isidewith...website
Larger sample size over a longer period of time.
54% pro life
46% pro choice
(With 8% of "pro-life" agreeing to the rape, incest, danger to mother situation)
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 9:10 am
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:44 am to Sulu
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I believe Louisiana’s law is outside of the will of the people, and therefore outside of the federalist construct of our Nation.
The people elected their legislators. The legislators create and pass laws. If the people don't like the law(s), then they elect different legislators to change the laws the people don't support. Laws should never be passed/rejected based upon "polls" of the people.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:44 am to STEVED00
quote:It, too, would have been struck down on constitutional arguments.
The Dems had a super majority a number of times. If THEY WANTED TO, the could’ve gotten enough Rs on board and passed a law allowing abortion if they were willing to compromise on time (less than 20 wks or something like that)
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:48 am to Sulu
Then the people can change the law.
State law is not difficult to change.
State law is not difficult to change.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:48 am to bird35
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State law is not difficult to change.
Hence the beauty of local government versus national judicial fiat.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:05 am to Sulu
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Louisiana’s Total Ban on Abortion is Not The True Will of the People
Ok. Tell me why.
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Polls show the majority (60%) of the country
Well, let's start here. Even if true, what does an average % for the entire country have to do with Louisiana?
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believe Louisiana’s law is outside of the will of the people, and therefore outside of the federalist construct of our Nation.
Ok, we're back to your original assertion. Are you going to provide any evidence for it further down? Let's see...
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I personally believe abortion after the first trimester should be limited to only the most rare medical necessities. A near-total ban on abortion is on the other extreme end of the spectrum than what liberals want.
No, still what you believe personally. One more line...
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Extremes rarely work well, for either side
Another assertion.
Yeah, that's not how any of this works. Louisiana's law will be what it will be, and legislators in following cycles will run on this issue. At that point, you'll get a true sense of what voters want. Until then, your point of view is just that...your point of view.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:07 am to Sulu
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Well there has to be a line somewhere. Good legislation is compromise.
Except when you compromise your principles and beliefs.
What is wrong...is wrong and should be stopped.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:11 am to Sulu
The pro abortion crowd asked for this. Mississippi wanted to restrict abortions after 15 or 16 weeks, I forget the exact timeline. The abortion clinics sued and got RvW overturned. It was a really dumb lawsuit, without it the anti abortion crowd would have never been able to accomplish this.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:24 am to Sulu
quote:As I read, the law does not prevent life of the mother ABs.
be limited to only the most rare medical necessities
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:25 am to Sulu
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Louisiana’s Total Ban on Abortion is Not The True Will of the People
Is this a book title or something? ESL?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:03 am to Sulu
well then get out and vote. the majority of people dont.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:08 am to Sulu
How is it when a drunk driver hits a pregnant woman, hurting her & killing her unborn child, he is convicted of murder? When a woman does it herself, is it not the same?
What exactly do you consider extreme?
What exactly do you consider extreme?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:14 am to Sulu
The majority of Americans do not support Abortion for birth control use by lazy arse women who don't, or won't, practice safe sex.
That singular issue there covers well over 98-99% of all cases. Another human being growing inside of a woman is not HER body. It's the body of a separate human being.
In Southern states, Abortions under this pre-text will be 100% illegal and majority approved.
The only difficult thing that has occurred is that Self-Responsibility got forced on some folks who've never had to follow that rule.
That singular issue there covers well over 98-99% of all cases. Another human being growing inside of a woman is not HER body. It's the body of a separate human being.
In Southern states, Abortions under this pre-text will be 100% illegal and majority approved.
The only difficult thing that has occurred is that Self-Responsibility got forced on some folks who've never had to follow that rule.
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