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re: Look what our woke, Leftist education system has done for our country

Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:21 am to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21238 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:21 am to
I read an article over 30 years ago and it was the first time that math scores had stopped declining in years. The article cited different innovative teaching approaches happening across the country. Wonderful wonderful stuff, America is back........

Later we would find out most of these were bullshite from when schools went merit based on students performance.....so the teachers just cheated on the tests.

There was a second article after this one, not based on feel good nonsense, but just the facts. From micro by school districts, to macro overall, as the amount of asian kids entered the school system, grades improved overall in math. Even though they made up a small percentage, their scores were so much higher they actually moved the overall curve.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29333 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:24 am to
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You really are a fricking moron.

And you are quite obviously a product of your right wing anti-education environment.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
8202 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:25 am to
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China and Japan passed us years ago and its only going to get worse from here.

Our public education system is not only the most expensive, but also least effective. It's a joke.


They also have some of the strictest immigration policies in the world, while we choose to import the third world en masse
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
13173 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:27 am to
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And you are quite obviously a product of your right wing anti-education environment.


My mind is vastly more developed than yours. You are literally too stupid to realize that.

The idiocy of "throwing more money at it" hasn't worked in NYC or DC or Chicago or any other large democrat-run city. Why is that?
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2386 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:29 am to
When you remove the welfare class from the testing, we are actually pretty competitive.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
142020 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:44 am to
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They also have some of the strictest immigration policies in the world, while we choose to import the third world en masse


Thank the democratic party.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
2086 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:56 am to
My Memory was slightly off it was 2015. China passed us in 2015 PISA test.

You said they, so now you get the say it's Japan you were talking about, but "they" should have included China and Japan as originally stated, with a primary topic of China being at the top.

Point being the US education system has been on a decline since federal influence gained more and more control and we focused on the wrong things and strain to justify it.


2015 China surpassed the U.S. in math scores during the PISA test, with students from four provinces achieving the highest scores globally.
2018 The trend continued, with Chinese students maintaining higher average math scores than their U.S. counterparts.
2022 The gap widened further, with U.S. students scoring significantly lower than those in China.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483285 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:58 am to
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Point being the US education system has been on a decline since federal influence gained more and more control and we focused on the wrong things and strain to justify it.


Again, this doesn't really have shite to do with it.

Our average education scores are impacted by the growing under class.

This is why we rank so low in all of these social scoring endeavors.

Saying our average anything is getting worse just says our underclass is growing.

I'll let Macho Man explain this in gif form:

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21717 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:58 am to
We have something China and Japan don’t have. I’ll let you guess what that is. Also, importing millions of 3rd worlders who can barely read of write doesn’t help either.
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5639 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:59 am to
Leftist f$ck just about everything up.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22526 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:41 am to
My son teaches Japanese kids English. He also has 2 daughters who attend Japanese schools. He says one big difference in Japanese education is the teachers, at all levels, are university-level educators. As opposed to U.S. teachers who are controlled by liberal unions, with little focus on education. Just look at the stats like math here, reading, etc.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21836 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:19 am to
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And you are quite obviously a product of your right wing anti-education environment.


How much money does it take to teach math in say, Baltimore?

It would be interesting to see how much money is spent in our worst performing skools compared to China/Japan.
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