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re: Let’s say Trump was right about Fauci/COVID

Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:37 pm to
When it happened, people still trusted 'the experts' and Fauci was a star. Trump was basically forced to take the measures he did.

By the time Biden came around, the fake plague had served its purpose. Why continue the mandates, etc. after that?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:39 pm to
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I don’t hold what happened in 2020 against Trump. I do find it ridiculous that people are chest beating that Trump is going to “expose” the people that he let run wild for the final year of his first term.

He gave Fauci a Presidential Commendation on his last full day in office of his first term.

If Fauci is the devil incarnate as so many people think then surely they think this is a bad look for Trump.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:40 pm to
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If Trump knew the shutdown/Fauci approach was bullshite a year before in April 2020, why did he let the country suffer?


Define "knew." It's not like he had the information he has now or gathered over the last 2 years.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32254 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:41 pm to
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Cool. Trump facilitated the locking down of 50 states and 300 million people.


At the very beginning, yeah of course. You would've done differently in the situation?

Trump was also the one of the first screaming to open everything back up if I remember correctly.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:41 pm to
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So Trump was a big states rights guy for the biggest trampling of rights in our lifetime?
Yeah

Only way he would have avoided impeachment and probably dying in prison.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:42 pm to
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NIH


Showing lately that he’s one of the dumbest posters on here.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69740 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:44 pm to
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I don’t hold what happened in 2020 against Trump. I do find it ridiculous that people are chest beating that Trump is going to “expose” the people that he let run wild for the final year of his first term.

Agreed. I rarely criticize Trump for anything COVID-related other than making the point that the CARES Act lit the inflationary fire that burns today. But, I also don’t see him as a hero in opposing anything that happened then. He still thinks the jab was great.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 4:50 pm
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11478 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:48 pm to
Trump never shut anything down. It was the Governor of each state that made the decision of what to do. Biden and Harris are the ones that wanted to for vaccines on the country until the Supreme Court shut that shite down. Trump gave a choice if you wanted vaccine, you had that choice, but wasn’t ordered to do it. Dems said they would never do it if Trump forced it until the next administration tried.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:49 pm to
Damn... you fricking people are insufferable. Trump was the president as the Corona virus came into the country and began spreading.
NOBODY knew what to expect.
NOBODY could be expected to know what to expect.

If you were POTUS at that time, what would you do? Any sensible person would follow the advise of the "experts".
Imagine, during all that chaos, nobody knew anything about Fauci or that he was actively covering up his illegal gain of function research.
It's so easy now for you fricktards to try and frame the scenario back then knowing what we know today.
Big wheels turn slow, even slower when involving the federal government, you can't just turn on/off such a huge, unprecedented response so easily.

I don't expect you or your TDS fricktard imbeciles to understand....
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:51 pm to
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Let me guess
Why?
This is documented history.
Don't guess. LEARN!

POTUS expected he had various centers of medical expertise to draw on. Initially he leaned to the CDC. Then the CDC fell apart, following the most catastrophic scientific error in US history -- the contamination of 100% of US CV19 test kits on the eve of CV19 hitting the US.

It was such an inconceivably inexplicable turn of events that there is a likelihood it was deliberate. Regardless, the CDC was taken out of the "expertise" conversation. That conveniently left the NIH as the infamous 500# gorilla in the ... science classroom.

You follow?

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Any sensible person would follow the advise of the "experts"
I believe he only did that as a secure way to avoid prison

A clear opposite approach from what they were saying + the death numbers would have ended his presidency and probably freedom
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150779 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:53 pm to
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following the most catastrophic scientific error in US history -- the contamination of 100% of US CV19 test kits on the eve of CV19 hitting the US
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124351 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:57 pm to
Trump was still duped then, doesn’t count
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140743 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:57 pm to
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WestCoastAg


You seem to imply the post you are responding to is humerous?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92193 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:58 pm to
What do you think Trump should have done during Covid?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124351 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:58 pm to
Trump is a big states’ rights guy?
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2449 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:59 pm to
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If Trump knew the shutdown/Fauci approach was bullshite a year before in April 2020, why did he let the country suffer?


In April 2020, we did not know anything about COVID. It first hit the US in January that year. The first COVID death in the US was at the end of February. The COVID shutdown started in March. By April of 2020, Trump strongly pushed to restart businesses and ease lockdown rules. He claimed he had total authority to override governors and reopen the country. Governors and legal scholars stated the president could not legally force states to open. It was out of Trump's hands at that point.

A full year later, after COVID had been studied and we had a supposed vaccine, Biden relaxed masking rules. Two years later, we started travelling again.

Making decisions based on years of information that Biden had is not exactly the equivalent to Trump's position of making decisions about the early stages of a new virus spreading around the globe that you have no data on.

With hindsight, a lot would have been done very differently.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92193 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:59 pm to
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Trump is a big states’ rights guy?
What is your point here?

Can you help us out a bit?

I’m not exactly sure what your point is in here. But I’m pretty confident I could make it in better fashion than you are.

Stop being a little twat.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 5:02 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124351 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 5:00 pm to
Once they discovered that the virus affected old people and fat people at similar rates to the flu, govern accordingly. But I understand he wanted to win in November. My main gripe here is people chest beating over the Fauci news as if Trump is on some war path to expose the same people he empowered. That is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 5:02 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140743 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 5:01 pm to
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What do you think Trump should have done during Covid?
The same thing JFK should have done on November 22, 1963 .... be omniscient.
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