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re: Let’s say Trump was right about Fauci/COVID

Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:27 pm to
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ignore 2 major points
What powers did declaring the national emergency give him? Mainly what was he trying to unlock for the administration to use? Wouldn’t any president declare a national emergency during Covid?


Could we have gotten through shutdowns economically without promising the money? What happens during Covid if Trump gives out 0.00$?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:33 pm to
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Trump and the governors were dealt a shut hand and were damned if they do and fanned if they don’t.


Well it’d have been nice if that coin flip landed on the side of the american people for once.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27349 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:45 pm to
DeSantis at the outset was all in for the restrictions even up to stopping northward travelers at the state border at one very early point. However, he did his homework in great depth and reversed course dramatically. That's why he didn't follow NY's Cuomo who killed thousands of elderly in nursing homes.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86204 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:51 pm to
The early numbers were dire. And we didn’t know the mortality rate then. He did the right thing erring on the side of caution.

You can maybe argue later on he should have opened things up, but he still had to rely on the experts (which we now know may not have been telling him the full truth).
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:14 pm to
I think that’s a fair assessment though May 2020 or so. By that point red state governors were bucking the fed expert guidance and Trump was allegedly berating Fauci in private.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 9:15 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
28011 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:18 pm to
True, but the underlying theme of this thread is taking down the “deep state”, but then having to trust the “deep state” when “Patriots are in control”. Can’t have it both ways and Fauci isn’t “going down”.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:26 pm to
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I think that’s a fair assessment though May 2020 or so. By that point red state governors were bucking the fed expert guidance and Trump was allegedly berating Fauci in private.


I agree but you also need to add that he was berating republican governors in public about opening up sooner than the fed guidelines suggested.


There’s the vein running through this that trump was duped in the first few weeks but then wised up and led the charge for opening up. The reality is that he shite on florida and georgia for not following his guidelines.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:32 pm to
I’ve gotten two PMs for not taking the Q stuff seriously enough so I have to stop commenting on it :(

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:34 pm to
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There’s the vein running through this that trump was duped in the first few weeks but then wised up and led the charge for opening up. The reality is that he shite on florida and georgia for not following his guidelines.


I still think some of this is hindsight bias.

If he reverses course and opens up and all hell breaks loose, he’s getting impeached. Especially when most conventional scientists were still erring on the side of caution and the vaccines were not done yet.

I think Trump gets a bad rap from many on the right for his handling of it. He was put in an unwinnable position.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 9:34 pm
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
4215 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:36 pm to
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I still think some of this is hindsight bias. If he reverses course and opens up and all hell breaks loose, he’s getting impeached. Especially when most conventional scientists were still erring on the side of caution and the vaccines were not done yet. I think Trump gets a bad rap from many on the right for his handling of it. He was put in an unwinnable position.


That is a fair take.

I upvoted it. I never thought I would upvote you.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69740 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:37 pm to
Funny thing about that is Trump was posting Q stuff a couple of days ago and I wanted to add it to the thread, but it's locked. Credit to the mods for not feeding the insanity.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:38 pm to
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If he reverses course and opens up and all hell breaks loose, he’s getting impeached


Getting impeached for what? What is the charge?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86204 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:39 pm to
I say outlandish shite and it’s “trolling”. Ailsa does it and it’s a four-page thread. It’s the damndest thing
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 9:41 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86204 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:39 pm to
Dereliction of duty. Gross mismanagement. Whatever they want to make it, really.

You don’t need a formal criminal charge but that’s for another thread.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11947 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:43 pm to
maybe. He'd just easily gotten past an impeachment 6 weeks prior to lockdown. He had an election in 8 months and it's just as likely he made choices based on the electoral optics of neglecting public health recommendations during a global pandemic.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
4215 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:43 pm to
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Getting impeached for what? What is the charge?


WTF?

They can make up a charge in 5 minutes and
manufacture fake evidence in 10 minutes

We have watched them do it for 10 years

The media will dutifully report it
Posted by whereishobson
Member since Dec 2012
747 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:48 pm to
Hey nc tiger. I’m guessing nc stands for North Carolina. How did Bidens fema work for you in North Carolina when disaster was declared because of the hurricane that hit your state and impacted thousands of people and Biden a fema was told not to help in areas where there may be Trump voters. Don’t u remember this bullshite from your Mickey Mouse bullshite of an administration. You are a piece of SHT
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22274 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:50 pm to
Your hate is so prevalent it obscures everything else you spew. Just remember we have 2 more years OF POTUS Donald Trump running the country. All to the good to the extent that anything he says that pisses off you libs is good in & of itself.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41705 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:55 pm to
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Dereliction of duty. Gross mismanagement. Whatever they want to make it, really.


I disagree that this is a legitimate or real threat. He had already been impeached twice. A hat trick doesn’t really move the needle for me. Either way, the dems sure as hell shite on him for his handling of covid anyway. You’d think they’d have impeached him for dereliction of duty or gross mismanagement they way they talked about how horrible the admin’s handling of it was.

But that’s really neither here nor there when it comes to people weirdly claiming he was leading the fight to reopen. He wasn’t as late as the dems, but several republicans (and his core base who he needed energized for that year’s election) beat him to the punch. And he publicly chastised those republicans for it.

Republicans at the capitol building were fighting for Louisiana to reopen at the same time trump was hosting and praising JBE for doing a “tremendous” job handling covid in Louisiana.

This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 10:00 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11947 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:04 pm to
He also took it quite seriously personally (got quickly vaccinated, continues to get regular boosters, which makes sense in the context of him calling himself a "germophobe" from way back), so I don't think he ever really bought into the "hoax" narrative. It would've been his 2nd impeachment, btw.
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