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re: Let me get this straight, the main reason we are doing this is to bring more jobs to US?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:54 am to Average_Comments
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:54 am to Average_Comments
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Great point lost in all of this, is cutting the welfare state.
There are lots of jobs out there, just not enough people willing to take them.
If we "Bring the jobs back" and kick out all the illegals and restrict importing cheap labor, we're going to have one hell of a labor issue on our hands
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Manufacturing jobs have not moved over seas (problem claimed)? Manufacturing jobs coming back to the US would not benefit the citizens of the US?
The problem claimed doesn't exist.
quote:Typical pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, smug, know-it-all response out of you, lib.
But your inability to articulate why, effectively, is the discussion.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:56 am to geauxcoco
quote:Ingnorance
Those are very low paying jobs. The only people who will want those jobs he’s deporting left and right
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All of you guys here today want to quit your Cush job today and go work in a factory?
You don't want to understand, you want to troll.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:57 am to RollTide4547
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Manufacturing jobs have not moved over seas (problem claimed)? Manufacturing jobs coming back to the US would not benefit the citizens of the US?
That depends on a lot of things.
If manufacturing comes back because prices raise domestically due to tariffs, that's not good for America overall.
If manufacturing jobs can come back naturally with competitive wages, sure, but those exist and are not being filled today (Same with trades).
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Typical pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, smug, know-it-all response out of you, lib.
Lib? I'm the one arguing for capitalism and removing government from the economy
You're the other guy
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Let's see. We spend more money on goods from other countries than those countries spend on our goods. Seems that money is flowing out of America and into other countries. Sounds kinda like a loss.
Losing? WTF
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:58 am to TigerDoc
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He's doing it because he says he's held these views for 30 years and in Trump 1, people like Gary Cohn were around to stop him, but in Trump 2, they're not.
Thanks so much for posting this. I wondered why Trump was so much more aggressive this time around. That makes sense.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:59 am to RollTide4547
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. We spend more money on goods from other countries than those countries spend on our goods.
Yes, that implies the opposite of losing.
It means we're rich as frick with a strong currency. That's winning, in my eyes.
Would you rather be poorer with a weaker currency? That would help the trade imbalance.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:00 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Thanks so much for posting this. I wondered why Trump was so much more aggressive this time around. That makes sense.
Yes that was illuminating for me as well.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:00 am to RollTide4547
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We spend more money on goods from other countries than those countries spend on our goods. Seems that money is flowing out of America and into other countries. Sounds kinda like a loss.
I'm at a loss. There are even memes floating around showing the stupidity of this argument, and it's still getting made.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:01 am to geauxcoco
you think manufacturing jobs are low paying jobs? compared to what exactly? I would think those jobs would come with benefits and be better than working retail or min wage jobs
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:01 am to Flats
Also note, he didn't say since the 70s or 80s or 90s...he said since World War 2
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Bet you also argue that you're a straight guy too...
Lib? I'm the one arguing for capitalism and removing government from the economy
quote:What doesn't?
That depends on a lot of things.
quote:Why not, you worried about not being able to purchase cheap dung from china?
If manufacturing comes back because prices raise domestically due to tariffs, that's not good for America overall.
quote:How do we compete "naturally"with slave child labor, with no benefits or protections for workers in other countres?
If manufacturing jobs can come back naturally with competitive wages,
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 10:06 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:02 am to geauxcoco
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Why do we need more jobs
To kill off the leaches who are suckling on the government teat. If your able bodied go get a job.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:03 am to beebefootballfan
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To kill off the leaches who are suckling on the government teat. If your able bodied go get a job.
Then cut welfare. We don't need a trade War to do that
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yes that was illuminating for me as well.
Lol. It was funny...and almost reassuring...to see that you got downvoted for a simple statement of fact.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:So if the points (dollars) are going more to the other guy than they are us, we are winning? This ain't golf
Yes, that implies the opposite of losing.
quote:For some people, I'm willing to pay more for something if it helps American Citizens.
It means we're rich as frick with a strong currency. That's winning, in my eyes.
quote:Or, we can encourage other countries to open their markets fairly to our products...
Would you rather be poorer with a weaker currency? That would help the trade imbalance.
In the end, your side lost the election. Better luck next time.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:07 am to geauxcoco
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You still can’t answer me can you?
You aren’t owed anything. Especially when you walk in a room guns blazing and act like an asshat. Why would anyone want to talk to you?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:07 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Absolutely I did. The tariffs on trade started after WWII. We agreed to it because the other countries needed to rebuild. If they are not rebuilt by now, they're not going to be rebuilt.
e said since World War 2
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:07 am to geauxcoco
the cold truth is 98% of you are too clueless to help. if you could be made to understand, you already would understand. US manufacturing is just One side of the coin. this is about other countries and US manufacturers who want to use the US marketplace for very little cost while charging US companies high costs to use their marketplaces. walmart doesn't let other companies come in and use their facilities for free. neither does amazon. neither would you. that's an overly simplistic explanation.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:08 am to thermal9221
This is the answer to the OP's question:
Which is to say no one really knows, but they'll say it was going to be whatever outcome we get - all along.
We won't know the main reason until it's done.
quote:
One day you’ll understand.
Which is to say no one really knows, but they'll say it was going to be whatever outcome we get - all along.
We won't know the main reason until it's done.
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