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re: Let me get this straight about the dead chef in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:55 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79747 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Huh?

Where did this come from? Thought he was paddleboarding with another person that saw him go under?


See, this is what I was getting at.

There are 15 different versions of this story floating around. Many of them are contradictory. I think the Obamas - with help from a compliant media - are actually encouraging that. If you keep the issue confused, nobody ever asks the right questions, and eventually it all just goes away.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57383 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:56 am to
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Thought he was paddleboarding with another person that saw him go down?


FIFY

And if that’s true that’s even more odd

Dude gets in the nude to paddle board in a pond behind someone else’s house during the day (if someone saw him).

The person who sees him then fails to jump in this pond perhaps because hurricane force waves

Chef paddle-boarding at such high speeds he hits his head on a twig that knocked him out and prevented this fantastic swimmer from swimming or standing up or…grabbing the floating boat

But…but…he was drunk or high…you say…THATS why he drowned

Back to point 1 - drunk/high naked dude allowed restricted access to a pond behind a gay man’s house while witnesses see him drown and do nothing

So…what’s the story here
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 8:58 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66668 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:03 am to
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Dude gets in the nude to paddle board in a pond behind someone else’s house during the day (if someone saw him).


did you consider that maybe all these facts might not be true after one of them was pointed out as incorrect?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23744 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:05 am to
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All those points are accepted facts

Accepted by you, apparently. Most of these "accepted facts" haven't been included in any story that I've seen, and are contradicted by what was reported at the time.

But you be you.
Posted by PaulMainieriEmbolism
Louisianer
Member since Jul 2020
733 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:06 am to
Michelle gave him the black eye with a Lombardi slap.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:26 am to
quote:

1. He was found naked with his clothes a large distance away
2. He was training as a competitive swimmer
3. He drowned in 8 foot of water directly behind the Obama’s home
4. He had fallen out of a small boat that seats more than one
5. The Obama’s initially denied being home then later retracted and admitted being there when photos/videos of them surfaced
6. Barack was seen with a black eye at that time
7. Both the chef and Obama were pole smokers?

Point one seals the deal for me
Then you should unseal, because point one is false.

He was NOT nude, and SOME of his clothes were found a SHORT distance away. I don't know about you, but I tend to remove some of my clothing before I go into the ocean. Generally, everything but my swim trunks.

1. false.
2. meh. He had just learned to swim. He as "training," but "competitive?"
3. true
4. false. It was a paddleboard, which is generally a one-person conveyance.
5. false. They inintially just said that they were not at home at the time of the incident. It is now reported (in more detail) that they were elsewhere on the island.
6. Hard to tell from the photo, but "maybe."
7. total speculation.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3511 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:27 am to
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Do you do the moral thing and stop your boss, knowing it’ll cost you your job?


That’s what happened to Bruce Willis in “the last boy scout”
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:28 am to
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question I’ve been pondering.

Say you’re an SS agent on Presidential Detail. You walk in on the Chief Executive molesting a 9 year old girl.

What’s the protocol here?
SS exists to protect the life of the President, not to cover-up crimes. A principled agent stops the assault and reports the crime.

Are all SS agents "principled?" Probably not.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101518 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:30 am to
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If you keep the issue confused, nobody ever asks the right questions, and eventually it all just goes away.


And you can label anyone who DOES DARE to ask a question just a wacky conspiracy theorist.

It's neat how it all works, huh?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:30 am to
quote:

1. He was found naked with his clothes a large distance away
2. He was training as a competitive swimmer
3. He drowned in 8 foot of water directly behind the Obama’s home
4. He had fallen out of a small boat that seats more than one
quote:

Huh? Where did this come from?

Other than point 3, he made up the things that he didn't get directly from Alex Jones.

The event was called to 911 by someone at the Obama home, while the Obamas are reported to have been elsewhere on the island. The most-reasonable inference is that the caller was either a member of the staff or of the SS detail. OR you can go all conspiracy theory.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 9:57 am
Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:34 am to
Any regular person would have the law up their arse investigating them but black Jesus and democrats in general are above the law. It’s hilarious the leaders of that party are exactly what their followers claim to hate. Straight up sycophants and fanatics
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22371 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:37 am to
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Thought he was paddleboarding with another person that saw him go under?




Did they ever identify the witness? The ambiguous nature of the initial statement created a reasonable suspicion that it was Barry. A suspicion that could be easily laid to rest if untrue.
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
1187 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:37 am to
Well in the democrats world you act like nothing happened.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Well in the democrats world you act like nothing happened.

and file it right behind the Seth Rich file
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78736 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:45 am to
Crackpot. Democrats don’t engage in weird creepy gay butt sex, and they certainly don’t settle personal scores, silence witnesses , engage in cover ups or engage in violence.

FORWARD!!
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4528 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:47 am to
Was Adam Schiff there? This sounds strikingly like the the kinds of scenes and scenarios he tends to be involved in.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4973 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:55 am to
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If Obama was there, SS was there and absolutely knows what happened.


The SS covered the white house cocaine story up and not they cover this up. The SS is a political tool as well it seems.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79747 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:58 am to
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And you can label anyone who DOES DARE to ask a question just a wacky conspiracy theorist.

It's neat how it all works, huh?


It’s a feature, not a bug.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:01 am to
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If Obama was there, SS was there and absolutely knows what happened.
Let's say that the reporting is accurate and that the Obamas were elsewhere on the island at the time of the incident.

YES, there would still have been one of the SS detail at the house, while the family was out for dinner or whatever. YES, the SS probably knows "what happened." It is ENTIRELY plausible that this person(s) even made the 911 call.

None of that dictates that something nefarious must have happened ... beyond an Obama guest with marginal swimming skills falling off a paddle board, hitting his head and drowning.
Posted by Stumpknocker
SWLA
Member since Mar 2021
466 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:06 am to
Like the wicked witch once said, “What difference does it make now?”
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