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re: Let just be honest on why Republicans deny climate change

Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:45 am to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:45 am to
Let's just be honest in why Liberals twist words to make Republicans sound dumb...

Most republicans believe in climate change. Many are skeptical about the cause. The earth's climate has always been changing (warming and cooling), with or without man / industrialization.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:46 am to
Fossil fuels have done an immense amount of good for the world. Oil and gas have greatly improved quality of life, increased economic productivity, have made traveling to visit friends and family across vast expanses around the world both possible and affordable, have rendered possible the ability to leave earth and explore the solar system and universe, and have increased the lifespan of billions. Oil and gas and the internal combustion engine is arguably one of the most important innovations since the Enlightment era and it continues to support life on this planet, enabling it to thrive and improve. It has also benefited American entrepreneurs and workers and has allowed us to become self sufficient.

This is not say that this doesn't come with an environmental cost. We should look to understand what it is, look to manage it, and explore alternative sources of energy insofar as they become economically viable. But we should have context... slowing down economic growth leads to increased human suffering, lower quality of life globally, and reduced prosperity domestically.

This is a complex issue that most are not mature enough or intellectually capable of trying to understand.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 10:49 am
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:46 am to
so, you wont admit to something obvious because they wont either? thats rather childish.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62613 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:47 am to
Let's be honest on why Leftists/Globalists push for climate change regulations. They want to control us
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4928 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:47 am to
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Then why would Republicans not admit, "I'm ok with pollution and contributing to climate change if it means I don't pay more in taxes?" Denying it exists seems like a stupid way of arguing against taxes.


I don’t think anyone is “ok” with screwing up the planet with pollution - you are on a different topic than climate change.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:48 am to
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If climate change is real, that means more regulation on pollution which means a shift away from fossil fuel production. I wish Republicans would just grow a pair and admit "we're ok with pollution if it creates jobs" rather than denying it exists altogether.

ETA: I'm talking about human contribution to climate change


Why don't we call it Global Warming anymore?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37561 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:48 am to
Big bad hurricanes are nothing new bubbehleh. Read your history of the colonial period

Will you admit that it is nothing but a scheme to separate more of us from more of our money so that you can control the population and turn us all into wards of the state and thus we become sheeple?
Posted by burdhead
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Member since Apr 2017
6008 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:48 am to
hey dildohead, we deny it because it's total bullshite
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 10:49 am
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18910 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:48 am to
Why use terms like "deny" when referring to my stance on the climate? I'll never deny scientific data. So why use such antagonistic titles?

Why won't the other side apologize for the ridiculous predictions they've made over the years? Those have retarded progress more than anything else
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 10:52 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117584 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:48 am to
I deny man made global warming because I studied it for 10 years before I came on this board. The warmists kept getting caught falsifying data. Every time they got caught they said 'Well, this time we're telling the truth.' Then they got caught again.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9136 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:50 am to
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Prove me wrong hoss


Prove yourself right. Will be hard to do considering your OP is just a theory.
Posted by bumpcity76
Lake
Member since Dec 2007
222 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:50 am to
Here's my deal with 'anthropological climate change' . Let's say, for the sake of argument, that man's actions, in regard to pollution, have caused climate change and an increased global temperature. If we accept that, then we can logically say that by reversing or correcting those actions, we could cause a resulting cooling, right? Logic and all... Now, if we've established that man can warm up, or cool down the world, who controls the thermostat? Who decides the 'correct' global temperature? I would imagine those at the equator would have a strong argument for cooling, while those in Siberia could probably go for some warming.

Of course, volcanoes\solar flares\natural global temperature swings, etc...
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16775 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:51 am to
I thought it was called man-made global warming? What happened to that term? Does it not apply anymore?
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8462 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:51 am to
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These words are a huge red flag that a bunch of hot air is about to be blown in my direction.


Second only to:

“Just a reminder:” followed by someone’s ridiculous emotional driven opinion that is in no way supported by facts
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:51 am to
quote:

I'd love to hear how you, personally, are qualified to make this assertion.


I hold PHds in chemistry, geology, and environmental sciences and I have worked in both the private sector and government controlled projects to study the effects of human's impact on the environment specifically long lasting effects on climate.

What are your credentials, personally, to dispute me?
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Fossil fuels have done an immense amount of good for the world. Oil and gas have greatly improved quality of life, increased economic productivity, have made traveling to visit friends and family across vast expanses around the world both possible and affordable, have rendered possible the ability to leave earth and explore the solar system and universe, and have increased the lifespan of billions. Oil and gas and the internal combustion engine is arguably one of the most important innovations since the Enlightment era and it continues to support life on this planet, enabling it to thrive and improve. It has also benefited American entrepreneurs and workers and has allowed us to become self sufficient. 

This is not say that this doesn't come with an environmental cost. We should look to understand what it is, look to manage it, and explore alternative sources of energy insofar as they become economically viable. But we should have context... slowing down economic growth leads to increased human suffering, lower quality of life globally, and reduced prosperity domestically. 

This is a complex issue that most are not mature enough or intellectually capable of trying to understand.


Finally one man with common sense. You other yoyos should take note.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
24842 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:52 am to
I don't think anyone can or has argued the climate isn't changing. The argument is when 99.999999999999% is due to the big orange ball in the sky and other uncontrollable issues why would we ruin an economy for the 0.0000000000001% that MAY be man made?

Plus when the vast, vast majority of the (if it exists) man made portion would be contributed by parties who won't abide by any terms of any reduction agreement why do it?



Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:52 am to
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I wish Republicans would just grow a pair and admit "we're ok with pollution if it creates jobs" rather than denying it exists altogether.

I wish the communists of the 70's who now call themselves environmentalists would grow a pair and admit this is all about redistributing wealth.

The Paris climate accord was intended to redistribute money from the haves to the have nots.

Climate change is simply a means to the end.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:52 am to
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Prove me wrong hoss

quote:

If climate change is real, that means more regulation on pollution which means a shift away from fossil fuel production. I wish Republicans would just grow a pair and admit "we're ok with pollution if it creates jobs" rather than denying it exists altogether.

ETA: I'm talking about human contribution to climate change

There, I proved you wrong.
Posted by Music_City_Tiger
Nashville, TN
Member since Feb 2018
1087 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:54 am to
What does co2 have to do with pollution
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