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re: Let just be honest on why Republicans deny climate change
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:10 am to Fourteen28
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:10 am to Fourteen28
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Let just be honest on why Republicans deny climate change
Your premise is wrong. Everybody knows the climate goes through continual change.
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:11 am to KillTheGophers
quote:How about a less-disingenuous proposal.
I’ll admit to climate change if Democrats admit that abortion is murder.
I will admit that a zygote, blastocyst, embryo or fetus is a member of the human species in which certain rights have not yet vested, if you admit that human industrial activity does have some effect upon the ecosystem and global temperatures, the full extent of which is not yet fully understood.
An honest and intelligent advocate for either side will acknowledge the accuracy of both positions, but that is just not the sort of debate we have in this country, because far too many are neither honest nor intelligent.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 11:13 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:11 am to Fourteen28
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f climate change is real, that means more regulation on pollution which means a shift away from fossil fuel production. I wish Republicans would just grow a pair and admit "we're ok with pollution if it creates jobs" rather than denying it exists altogether
No one says it isnt real, only the drivers and hysterics over its severity are debated. Conservatives have proven to be correct on this front.
To your second point, the reasons conservatives refuse to support the programs proposed to address it, is that, as usual, those solutions require the United States to accept the brunt of the economic hard ship to the benefit of someone like China.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 11:12 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:12 am to steadytiger
quote:Exactly. The only ones denying climate change are those that argue the ONLY causal variable is CO2 and everything else is static.
Your premise is wrong. Everybody knows the climate goes through continual change.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:14 am to Fourteen28
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In 1988, then-Sen. Timothy Wirth, D-Colo., said, "We've got to ... try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong ... we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy." And ride the issue they have.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:15 am to Fourteen28
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I'd love to hear how you, personally, are qualified to make this assertion.
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Republicans deny climate change
You should read more and get back to us on this. Republicans don’t “deny climate change” and there’s really no use trying to argue with someone that’s developed a false narrative in their own mind.
We all know you can be given every fact and opinion from “republicans” in the world and it won’t make one iota of a difference.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:16 am to Fourteen28
There are AT LEAST six separate and distinct instances where anyone with an IQ above single digits should have stood up and said -- WHAT THE F*CK IS UP WITH THIS SCAM!
1. When AleGore declared that "the debate is over" and refused to even listen to any differing opinions. The only reason politicized scum wants the debate to "be over" is because they cannot support their insane THEORIES with facts.
2. When they had to change the f*cking name from Global Warming to Climate Change because the FACTS weren't supporting their SCAM. Remember, in the 70's we were told all the doom and gloom scenarios as a result of the coming ice age?
3. When all of AleGore's doom and gloom predictions in the 90's and early 2000's were shown to be completely f*cking WRONG and were nothing more than alarmist BULLSH!T. Notice how all of their new DOOM AND GLOOM predictions go out 100 years. Now, WHY IS THAT? Could it be because no one will be alive to eat sh!t when their predictions turn out to be the same alarmist BULLSH!T that AleGore perpetrated 15-20 years ago?
4. Perhaps most importantly, anyone with a f*cking brain should realize this is a scam because those who are pumping it (AND LOOKING TO PROFIT OFF OF IT) are the same political scumbags who don't offer ANY solutions. Instead, they give you the same bullshite attempts to TAX THE F*CK OUT OF IT as they do with all of their other perceived societal ills.
5. When they come up with a hypothesis that, no matter what the weather/climate is actually like, it can be blamed on their scam.
FINALLY, if all of that isn't enough to make even a functional retard question global warmi... er, I mean climate change, the ultimate proof is in the proverbial pudding.
6. Not once, but twice now we have documented evidence of those in charge of "collecting the irrefutable data" upon which all of these bogus f*cking models are predicated committing fraud to support their conclusions. First there was the East Anglia University e-mails showing that these f*cking clowns fully realized that their meal ticket was a complete f*cking fraud so they manipulated the raw data. Then we found out recently from the NASA whistleblower that Odumbf*ck's NASA appointees (why the f*ck is this even a NASA issue to begin with?) have been manipulating the data.
Now, if all of these "experts" are so convinced that their theory is absolutely correct and the "debate is over" then why do they feel that they have to manipulate the data in first f*cking place?
EDITED TO ADD ON MAY 3, 2017!!!! We've had ANOTHER whistleblower from Odumbf*ck's NOAA admitting that the data was manipulated.
1. When AleGore declared that "the debate is over" and refused to even listen to any differing opinions. The only reason politicized scum wants the debate to "be over" is because they cannot support their insane THEORIES with facts.
2. When they had to change the f*cking name from Global Warming to Climate Change because the FACTS weren't supporting their SCAM. Remember, in the 70's we were told all the doom and gloom scenarios as a result of the coming ice age?
3. When all of AleGore's doom and gloom predictions in the 90's and early 2000's were shown to be completely f*cking WRONG and were nothing more than alarmist BULLSH!T. Notice how all of their new DOOM AND GLOOM predictions go out 100 years. Now, WHY IS THAT? Could it be because no one will be alive to eat sh!t when their predictions turn out to be the same alarmist BULLSH!T that AleGore perpetrated 15-20 years ago?
4. Perhaps most importantly, anyone with a f*cking brain should realize this is a scam because those who are pumping it (AND LOOKING TO PROFIT OFF OF IT) are the same political scumbags who don't offer ANY solutions. Instead, they give you the same bullshite attempts to TAX THE F*CK OUT OF IT as they do with all of their other perceived societal ills.
5. When they come up with a hypothesis that, no matter what the weather/climate is actually like, it can be blamed on their scam.
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Let's see how it works --
Cold Summer - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Summer - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Summer - Fault of Global Warming
Cold Fall - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Fall - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Fall - Fault of Global Warming
Cold Winter - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Winter - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Winter - Fault of Global Warming
Cold Spring - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Spring - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Spring - Fault of Global Warming
Too Many Hurricanes - Fault of Global Warming
Average Number of Hurricanes - Fault of Climate Change
Very Few Hurricanes - Fault of Climate Change
And, on and on and on and on ....
FINALLY, if all of that isn't enough to make even a functional retard question global warmi... er, I mean climate change, the ultimate proof is in the proverbial pudding.
6. Not once, but twice now we have documented evidence of those in charge of "collecting the irrefutable data" upon which all of these bogus f*cking models are predicated committing fraud to support their conclusions. First there was the East Anglia University e-mails showing that these f*cking clowns fully realized that their meal ticket was a complete f*cking fraud so they manipulated the raw data. Then we found out recently from the NASA whistleblower that Odumbf*ck's NASA appointees (why the f*ck is this even a NASA issue to begin with?) have been manipulating the data.
Now, if all of these "experts" are so convinced that their theory is absolutely correct and the "debate is over" then why do they feel that they have to manipulate the data in first f*cking place?
EDITED TO ADD ON MAY 3, 2017!!!! We've had ANOTHER whistleblower from Odumbf*ck's NOAA admitting that the data was manipulated.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:17 am to Fourteen28
OP should wonder why true believers in power only bring up “manmade” climate change when its politically convenient. If the situation is dire enough to warrant significant change, why aren’t these politicians on the left constantly bringing it up?
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:18 am to Fourteen28
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If climate change is real, that means more regulation on pollution which means a shift away from fossil fuel production.
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ETA: I'm talking about human contribution to climate change
Global warming became climate change when the so-called evidence for global warming was proven to be absolute fabricated bullshite promoted by climate scientists who continue to profit obscenely off of it's existence, and the narrative that it is caused by mankind.
If you and others truly believe that humans are causing this, then why are you after the US and it's 350 million population? Could it be because China, with it's 1.4 billion people, and India with it's 1.3 billion tell you to go frick yourself?
What is your proposal for the US taxpayer to save the earth from your fabricated global disaster? If it is caused by man, and China and India have the most of them, I have a funny feeling neither country will be interested in paying 4x whatever the US "invests" to fix the problem.
So do we kill them all when they tell us to frick ourselves, or are you not serious about the idea that throwing enough money at this problem will fix it?
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:19 am to Fourteen28
Climate change is f@cking real dipsh!t. Every day.
Man made global warming meaning us as the main driver is the issue.
Now ask your dom to give you your testicles back so you can start a smarter thread next time.
Man made global warming meaning us as the main driver is the issue.
Now ask your dom to give you your testicles back so you can start a smarter thread next time.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:20 am to Fourteen28
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Let just be honest on why Republicans deny climate change
You are either stupid or dishonest.
'Republicans' do not deny 'climate change' - nobody denies that.
Let's be honest here - WHY did the progs change their concern about GLOBAL WARMING to "climate change?"
the ONLY rational explanation for that narrative edit would be that you are equally concerned that the climate may change to become cooler.
Is that your contention??? Are you equally concerned that the earth is cooling? If not, then state your real concern - that you fear that the globe is WARMING - and furthermore that WE IN THE USA are to blame for it.
Are you willing to admit that you are being manipulated by some progressive narrative?
Or are you just dishonest ???]
Or are you just that stupid???
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:21 am to Fourteen28
What can the US do to stop climate change when china, india and other developing countries are producing the lion’s share of carbon emissions?
It’s wasted tax dollars
It’s wasted tax dollars
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:22 am to AggieHank86
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An honest and intelligent advocate for either side will acknowledge the accuracy of both positions, but that is just not the sort of debate we have in this country, because far too many are neither honest nor intelligent.
Would you have any desire to discuss a topic to which you were pre-labeled a "denier"?
Some of the most shameful burdens we've placed on Mother Nature are the disingenuous talking heads that have been allowed to represent both sides of the stewardship debate
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:23 am to goatmilker
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Man made global warming meaning us as the main driver is the issue
According to what?
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:24 am to Erin Go Bragh
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We should have nuclear plants operating in every state but the environmentalist's faction of the DNC says, no.
We actually average 2 or 3 nuclear plants per state. I believe we have 3 in NC.
NC also was 2nd in the nation for solar power implentation last year.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:27 am to The Boat
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Who denies climate change? Libs love their wordings. The earth’s climate constantly changes. We’re actually in a cool period. You’d think “the party of science” knew a little bit about science.
Man made climate change and the need to tax the crap out of everyone to “fix” it is nonsensical.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 11:30 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:29 am to Fourteen28
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In the late 2000s, Al Gore made a series of high-profile statements suggesting the possibility that Arctic sea ice could be completely gone during the summer by around 2013 or 2014.
quote:LINK
On 13 December 2008, Gore appears to have made a similarly flawed statement while speaking at the opening of a German natural history museum. Though transcripts and clear audio are hard to find, one video of the event documents Gore saying that “The entire North polar ice cap may well be completely gone in 5 years.”
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:30 am to i am dan
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We actually average 2 or 3 nuclear plants per state.
We have 61 operating nuclear power plants utilizing 99 reactors in the U.S.
Twenty states have no plant operating within their borders.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:30 am to Fourteen28
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ETA: I'm talking about human contribution to climate change
This ETA did not make your post sound any less retarded. It actually doubles down on it
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:31 am to LSURussian
How many tax dollars and regulations does it take to lower the temperature by 1 degree?
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