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re: Let just be honest on why Republicans deny climate change
Posted on 9/15/18 at 6:44 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 9/15/18 at 6:44 am to ShortyRob
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Except, in this case, Washington DC and other similarly stupid leftists think they can centrally plan innovation! Worse, DC wants to steal resources that typically would be used towards innovation. WORSE, DC wants to stifle the engine that generates those resources. It's fricking insane. By the way, I don't mean "innovate out of it" as in, we'll stop it. When the oceans flooded cities after the last mini ice age, humans didn't stop the floods, they fricking moved. We act like we have some inalienable birthright to the exact climate of the last say, 50 years.............FOREVER.
Well said
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Posted on 9/15/18 at 6:59 am to Fourteen28
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Let just be honest
You Weak Minds don’t know the meaning nor capable of being honest because if you were you would stop pushing this narrative that the US is the problem when it comes to pollution and recognize and admit its China, India and Eastern Europe...
Posted on 9/15/18 at 8:33 am to Fourteen28
What most people do not realize is that the basic foundation of our data on weather (climate) has been corrupted by the liberals. Take the simple act of recording the temperature. All thermometers are calibrated according to a "reference" thermometer. If someone adjusts that reference thermometer or adjusts the thermometers themselves then you get a deliberate mis-read. A few years ago I noticed the temperature in Alexandria was always 5-6 degrees higher than everyone elses. It was really obvious. I asked the local weatherman (knew him) what the deal was....He said yeah- "we have been complaining about that for a long time" Next time I saw him he said the had it "fixed". was 4-5 degrees miscalibrated. Probably intentional was his explanation. SO, when you have people intentionally doing crap like this at the ground level, its really hard to believe any outcome that the main stream comes up with.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 8:36 am to Fourteen28
What’s honest is you guys want to tax the weather, and by tax, I mean you want to tax the American middle class, on the weather
This post was edited on 9/15/18 at 8:38 am
Posted on 9/15/18 at 8:51 am to Fourteen28
The main reason is falsified data created to obtain government grants by producing politically correct results. We're the part of real science, not the one that believes in 800 genders.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 8:53 am to Fourteen28
Climate change is real. The issue Conservatives have is with the assumption that it’s man-made and that the fix involves redistribution of wealth.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 9:09 am to NC_Tigah
Wait, what are you saying?
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:19 am to Geauxst Writer
quote:CO2 is not a carcinogen.
Pollution is real. Any idea why the cancer rates along the chemical corridor between BR and NO are some the highest in the US.
quote:You’re attempt at creating a strawman equivalence between carcinogenic pollution and CO2 emissions is silly.
What is astounding, is the large number of you and the WH that just dismissed the scientific evidence that pollution and corresponding effect on climate are myths.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:21 am to AggieHank86
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How about a less-disingenuous proposal.
I will admit that a zygote, blastocyst, embryo or fetus is a member of the human species in which certain rights have not yet vested, if you admit that human industrial activity does have some effect upon the ecosystem and global temperatures, the full extent of which is not yet fully understood.
An honest and intelligent advocate for either side will acknowledge the accuracy of both positions, but that is just not the sort of debate we have in this country, because far too many are neither honest nor intelligent.
Why do you pretend to be a conservative?
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:26 am to Powerman
The purpose of his comparison is to demonstrate to the OP how someone can deny something one might seem is so obvious. It was an opportunity for some self reflection on part of the OP.
The OP thinks climate change is obvious.
Republicans think abortion = murder is obvious.
The only stupid people here are those who missed that point.
The OP thinks climate change is obvious.
Republicans think abortion = murder is obvious.
The only stupid people here are those who missed that point.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:28 am to bmy
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Neither is "consensus". Don't you agree?
Why do you avoid answering the simple question??
"Consensus" is what part of scientific methodology?
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:31 am to Geauxst Writer
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Any idea why the cancer rates along the chemical corridor between BR and NO are some the highest in the US.
What is the "chemical corridor"??
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:47 am to WaWaWeeWa
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The questions you can’t answer are exactly why people here do not think it’s a “settled science”. When we hear the words “settled science and you can’t answer those questions we are immediately suspicious of anything else you say or claim.
I’m just trying to explain why republicans act the way they do. So I’ll ask the questions again...
The point I'm trying to make is that any possible answer a scientist comes up is rejected out of hand by nearly half of the population.
If I say here, for example, that 95% of published climate papers agree that reducing ghg emissions by 15% globally over the next decade is what it would take to minimize anthropogenic impact to insignificant levels.. I become a globalist wealth redistributor.
An unfortunate amount of republicans believe mankind has no effect, has never had an effect, and could not have an effect on climate. Even President Trump thinks its a conspiracy.
Easier to focus on reforestation, renewables, clean air, and clean water because the gratification comes in the short term, its in our own backyard and more tangible, and has lasting positive effects.
I lost my climate monitoring station at work last year because of this nonsense. It wasn't a big deal, just retrieving data from a continuous monitoring probe 4 times a year. Because a politician wants to pat himself on the back about taking climate change funds away. We already bought the damn probe 10 years ago
This post was edited on 9/15/18 at 11:51 am
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:54 am to bmy
quote:Nope. I’d ask you why the other 85% is irrelevant, while CO2 irradiative effects are non-linear. Then I’d ask what your proposal would be to force these reductions, and who you’d force the reductions upon. That’s where you’d expose yourself.
If I say here, for example, that 95% of published climate papers agree that reducing ghg emissions by 15% globally over the next decade is what it would take to minimize anthropogenic impact to insignificant levels.. I become a globalist wealth redistributor.
I’d also ask if you’ve fully accounted for the reduction in aerosols in the “papers” you’re using, and in your proposals. You could do this now if you wanted.
quote:*yawn* even the IPCC put the uncertainty on their own climate models as greater than the hypothetical temperature rises. You’re subjugated certainty isn’t a very good example of being “scientific”.
An unfortunate amount of republicans believe mankind has no effect, has never had an effect, and could not have an effect on climate. Even President Trump thinks its a conspiracy.
This post was edited on 9/15/18 at 11:56 am
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:55 am to Dale51
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Why do you avoid answering the simple question??
"Consensus" is what part of scientific methodology?
Because its not part of it. It is a consequence of scientific methodologies.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 6:47 pm to KeyserSoze999
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What’s honest is you guys want to tax the weather, and by tax, I mean you want to tax the American middle class, on the weather
They also want to tax the air you breathe.
After all, you are contributing to all the CO2 that is polluting the air.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 10:19 pm to Fourteen28
Climate change?
You mean like transitioning into an ice age and then out of it?
Yeah, we believe in climate change. The Earth is constantly in a state of climate change.
We have absolutely no affect or control of it.
Nice try retard.
You mean like transitioning into an ice age and then out of it?
Yeah, we believe in climate change. The Earth is constantly in a state of climate change.
We have absolutely no affect or control of it.
Nice try retard.
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