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re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

Posted on 10/14/20 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 12:54 pm to
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Regardless, you can see in this stillshot that Newman is not filming or at least doesn't have the shooting framed
Yeah. That’s weird. As a journalist your first instinct is get the story.
Yeah, I have found this entertaining in the context of all the people claiming that the reporter (Newman?) deleted images of the actual shooting, when every image from OTHER photographers shows that he was not even filming at that time.

It does seem odd that he was NOT filming, but he clearly WAS NOT.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 12:58 pm to
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No crime was committed?
Not what I said. I was making a general statement that sometimes bad things happen even without a crime ... not a statement specific to this encounter.

In this case, Dolloff (like Rittenhouse) clearly committed a homicide. Some homicides are criminal, and some are not. It is yet to be determined whether any of those homicides (two for Rittenhouse and one for Dolloff) constitutes a "crime," because the claims of self-defense have not yet been adjudicated.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 12:58 pm to
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Yeah. That’s weird. As a journalist your first instinct is get the story.
In Newman's video, it seems evident that something caused the camera to jostle and film downward at the point Dolloff physically interacted with Keltner. I presume it was Keltner bumping it, but it could have been Dolloff charging in, or Newman simply moving aside.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 12:59 pm to
Gun

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:02 pm to
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How many photos did she delete?

I’d guess 4-8.
Easy to tell. The camera numbers the frames sequentially. The time gap *could* be due to spray-and-pray and the buffer filling, but if so... the numbers won’t skip. Police will have no problem know if she deleted any frames.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:03 pm to
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Again, sometimes bad things happen without anyone committing a crime.
As was the case with the slap and retreat. ...BUT not with a vigilante publicly executing a target via headshot while policemen were in place 10 seconds away.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:03 pm to
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Is Keltner going to drop the mace can, reach across his body, unsnap his holster, draw his weapon and then fire?


If the primary goal is indeed to have the target reach for his weapon, knocking the can out of his hand would help facilitate that objective.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:08 pm to
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Again, sometimes bad things happen without anyone committing a crime.


Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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44345 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:08 pm to
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How many photos did she delete?

I’d guess 4-8.
Easy to tell. The camera numbers the frames sequentially. The time gap *could* be due to spray-and-pray and the buffer filling, but if so... the numbers won’t skip. Police will have no problem know if she deleted any frames.
Assuming that she was firing in continuous burst mode, the frame rate indicates that 2-6 frames COULD be missing. The file names/numbers indicate that nothing was deleted. So, one of several things MAY have happened. First, she may have deleted files and renamed every file on the drive. Second, she may have briefly feathered the SR button, due to being startled. Third, something may have glitched in the camera or the tethered computer to slow the fps at a VERY coincidental time.

At this point, my money (though not much of it) is on unintentionally feathering the SR. If she deleted and renamed files, she would need to be VERY good for the cops not to find it.

At the same time, I will bet significant money that the majority here will insist (without evidence) that she DEFINTELY engaged in delete/rename ... while the same posters will insist that actors they LIKE in other encounters would NEVER tamper with evidence.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:10 pm to
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If I were a producer hoping for a promotion to reporter
Well if you’re a producer and think becoming a reporter is a promotion you’d be all sorts of stupid.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:10 pm to
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At this point, my money (though not much of it) is on unintentionally feathering the SR
Yep.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:13 pm to
From new video released.



The 4 second clip I talked about last night.


Twitter vid
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:14 pm to
Except he pretty clearly reached under his left breast vest panel where his pistol was visibly holstered, which likely elicited the slap, which resulted in antifa boy popping a cap.

The mace doesn't even seem to play a significant role here. I don't think Dollof gets to say he feared he'd be incapacitated by the mace and disarmed since his firearm was completely concealed and he had zero identifying characteristics of a security guard. I also dont think he gets to say he saw Keltners weapon and thought he'd be maced then shot either. That's a preposterous reach of he's claiming self defense.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Is it not (at least) equally plausible that she simply feathered the SR during the shooting, because she was startled?
If so she’d be one of the worst PJs ever.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:16 pm to
He killed a man backing away from about 6-8 feet. Antifag murderer.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Bobby OG Johnson
It would be nice if that clip started about 2 seconds sooner.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:18 pm to
Elliott was the bait in the cast net with Helen as the chronicle of his efforts

He kept trying to engage any patriot to escalate the conflict for the visuals for Helen

When he gets a nibble from kelter’s group, he tries to ramp it up but they don’t take the bait and it starts to Peter out

Newman and Dollof roll in and try to escalate the confrontation which catches kelter’s eye

Kelter steps to Dollof and it goes from six to midnight in an instant


Elliot will try to distance himself from Dollof
Helen will try to distance herself from Elliot and Dollof
Newman will try to distance himself from dollof’s actions

What ties it all together is Helen and Newman are connected
Newman and Dollof are obviously connected
My guess is Dollof and Elliot are connected through Denver Antifa
The circle will be easy to complete when Dollof sings for the DA
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:21 pm to
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NC_Tigah


I don't know for certain what exactly transpired. None of us here do.

What I do know, was that people on this board would be singing a different tune if the roles were reversed.

A BLM guys assaults a Trump supporter, draws a can of mace, and the Trump supporter fires on the BLM supporter, this board would be 99% claiming self defense and "stand your ground."

"Don't assault someone with a handgun, and you won't get shot." "Play stupid games..."

Hypocrisy.

The shooter should be arrested and this should be thoroughly investigated. But don't act like any of you are the least bit consistent about your judgements based on the apparent politics involved.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
158011 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:22 pm to
My biggest WTF

Did these antifags just ignore all those other cameras or did they think their little plan was rock solid until Doloff decide to kill our patriot?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 1:23 pm to
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My first guess is that she was saving the files offboard to her laptop, rather than an onboard SD card, and that the buffer got full. Thoughts?

Nope. Can’t do that rate on Wifi. It’s basically useless. D5 uses XQD no SD. It’s pretty hard to fill up e buffer unless shooting RAW.
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