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re: Kari Lake Election Contest TRIAL! Viva & Barnes Live Commentary

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Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:55 pm to
Dr boy looks constipated.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:57 pm to
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Dr boy looks constipated.

I can see his Subaru Forester from here.
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:57 pm to
He wasnt there

He verified nothing

He examined nothing

Others told him stuff

Hes going off fraudulent Data

Why is he testifying again?
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 1:03 pm
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:20 pm to
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The 19 inch ballots couldn't be read by the tabulators. there was no other way for it to happen aside from intentionally.


What about the claim the print file could have been set to “fit to page.” That. Could be done without knowing it would make a difference. Did he address that?
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:24 pm to
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Did he address that?


Yes. I believe he said only a few people had that access and would have had to manually set it that way.

He said more on it. It's back in this thread somewhere.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:27 pm to
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What about the claim the print file could have been set to “fit to page.”
IIRC, that was not a claim, it was a hypothetical extrapolating a xerox machine to a vote machine printer. It is why the witness continually refused to answer. It sounded like the contention was, in reality, there is no print-to-fit setting in the machine.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:30 pm to
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He wasnt there

He verified nothing

He examined nothing

Others told him stuff

Hes going off fraudulent Data

Why is he testifying again?


Wasn't the woman who testified yesterday basically going off a voicemail?
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:31 pm to
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there is no print-to-fit setting in the machine.

I thought that, or that if you changed to that setting you'd have to know what you were doing, and be doing it purposefully. He said something about needing admin access.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:36 pm to
No the woman yesterday was like a policeman who testified about the steps she took in investigating chain of custody.

One of which was communication she had with Maricopa County that included correspondence in the form of voicemails received from a Betty, diminutive of Elizabeth- of which 3 were employed.

Az’s investigator by contrast communicated with no one and said conspiracy theory
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:38 pm to
After the State rests, what happens? How long for the judge to make his decision?
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:39 pm to
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What about the claim the print file could have been set to “fit to page.” That. Could be done without knowing it would make a difference. Did he address that?


Yes. The opposing witness posed a hypothetical (with no evidence that it actually happened) and he responded that the print to fit would have been required to have been the result of an intentional manipulation, but had the print to fit been set to print a 20 Inch it would have had no effect on the output of 20 inch ballot.

So basically the hypothetical posed by Arizona was impossible to cause the result demonstrated on the actual ballot evidence.
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:43 pm to
He’s giving himself until after Christmas- memory serves
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:44 pm to
Women yesterday wasnt trying debunk all previous testimony because she has a PHD and is a Political Science professor.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 1:45 pm
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Yes. The opposing witness posed a hypothetical (with no evidence that it actually happened) and he responded that the print to fit would have been required to have been the result of an intentional manipulation, but had the print to fit been set to print a 20 Inch it would have had no effect on the output of 20 inch ballot.


Right. Shrink-to-fit is for an image bigger than the print paper. In this instance the print paper was bigger than the image 20" vs 19". It's an impossibility that could be what happened.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:03 pm to
Dr. Kenneth Mayer. An academic from UW-Madison.

who is this guy?
is he same as Uw contractor for Fox, whose analysis led Fox to call AZ for the winner biden.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:07 pm to
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That's what the current witness is testifying about the number of people who definitively left. If she had done it by affidavit - it would have been "anecdotal."


True….but it’s actual people who signed a document claiming they did not vote due to the jacked up voting system in AZ. That’s somewhat tangible data.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:07 pm to
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An incorrectly printed ballot wouldn't scan at ANY tabulator.


The defense better hope that’s the case.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:07 pm to
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is he same as Uw contractor for Fox, whose analysis led Fox to call AZ for the winner biden.


But that was such a reckless call he lost his job.
Posted by ksayetiger
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:13 pm to
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But that was such a reckless call he lost his job.


Link?

I don't not believe you I just haven't heard that
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2071 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Distrusting the system was what made them show up. The FUBAR system on their arrival - caused them to leave. So says the expert testimony in the case. The only rebuttal by AZ is a guy who did no investigation and said, i haven't seen any data that . . .


But that’s not being disenfranchised. If you refuse to put the ballot in box 3 to be scanned elsewhere and choose not to go somewhere else and vote, you are not disenfranchised. You chose not to vote because you don’t like the options.
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