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re: Kari Lake Election Contest TRIAL! Viva & Barnes Live Commentary

Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:32 pm to
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even though it is 99.999& probable that she was the actually winner of legitimate votes.


i'd love to see how you calculated that number.
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A new election is the only remedy - and if it is performed (due to the exponential threat of more skullduggery in the process) that it should be a ONE-day election at specified locations, with absolute verification of ID, residency, citizenship, proper registration, paper ballots.

Do the paper ballots on carbon 3 ply copy paper - one copy retained by the Marine Corps as a final quality check, and the other two copies counted by court appointed representatives with qualified observers every step of the way.


so the only remedy that makes sense to you is an election that doesn't follow arizona election laws and procedures? I don't see that happening....
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:35 pm to
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The only chance she has is for a new election, but I’d be very surprised if that was the ruling. Mainly because the bar is so high on what Lake had to show.

I don't think the evidence presented was all that incredible for lake especially with the high bar.


Box 3 ballot options being counted at voting centers is normal in AZ.

the statistics guy from florida sounds like wasn't being totally legit as the county was able to provide an expert as well who could correct his math even.

It just seems like the only real issue here would be the 50 injected vote situation potentially if that's real. however the person who issued that statement chose not to testify as expected so.....
Posted by DreauxB2015
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:42 pm to
Why does there have to be this high bar ? Shouldn't any proven shenanigans in any election wether its R or D be enough to call bs and do it over ? This is American not China btw . When you start accepting bs , they will continually give you bs in small amounts until you accept bs in all amounts .
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 8:55 pm
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:46 pm to
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Shouldn't any proven shenanigans in any election wether its R or D be enough to call bs and do it over ?



quite a few congressional republicans would have lost in 2020.
several white men Republicans voted for dead relatives and got caught.
by your post they would have lost since 1 vote was fraudulent.
Posted by texridder
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:54 pm to
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issues only started in 2020, when Trump was pushing his supporters to only vote in-person,

why was Trump pushing his supporters to vote in person?
Posted by DreauxB2015
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:57 pm to
I wonder ? HMMM , because he knew vote by mail was to susceptible to massive fraud ?
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 8:58 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:13 pm to
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Why does there have to be this high bar ?

The bar set was that she needed to prove there were enough issues in the counting that it would have affected the outcome.

basically if you can show the election was changed you're good to go.

Their other option was if they could show the Maricopa BOE intentionally caused it.

while the bar of proof is high it's not unreasonable.

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Shouldn't any proven shenanigans in any election wether its R or D be enough to call bs and do it over ?

What do you mean by any? like if one guy is charged with fraud or double voting we redo the whole election?
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When you start accepting bs , they will continually give you bs in small amounts until you accept bs in all amounts .


yeah i'm familiar with this concept, mike lindell and the fraudulent voting ilk have been kings of this. Give only one side of it very spun into specifics that make their side look very valid and absolute.

And then scatter like cockroaches when scrutiny shines it light. once the scrutiny recedes then they creep back up with whatever their next lies or misunderstandings are.
Posted by DreauxB2015
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:27 pm to
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And then scatter like cockroaches when scrutiny shines it light


Please explain , they presented evidence and instead of any investigations they shunned it like a plaque . Calling it the " The Big Lie " and " No standing " doesnt constitute shinning a light on it does it ? To me thats running and hiding like a little bitch .
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:40 pm to
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Are you admitting some bs went on and we should have a do over ? Or , are you saying some bs went on but it was not enough for a do over ? Or , are you saying it wasnt proved enough bs took place to do anything at all?


I don’t think there was enough proven bs to throw out an election. It's a very high bar for a reason and it should take hard concrete evidence to ignore/throw out thousands of American votes in this country. Lake didn’t have that. Just my opinion and I know most on here disagree.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:47 pm to
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it should take hard concrete evidence to ignore/throw out thousands of American votes

It wouldn't really be throwing them out if they all get to do it over.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 9:48 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:49 pm to
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wouldn't really be throwing them out if they all get to do it over.

Long lines equal disenfranchised voters but throwing them all out and saying do it again is totally not disenfranchisement.....noted
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:51 pm to
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Mickey, you're good people. Now I want to watch Galaxy Quest.


Posted by lizlady68
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 10:25 pm to
You tube has already removed the video of Kari Lake Trial... is that not proof of censorship and the desire to change the narrative and hide the truth? This collusion between media and this Orwellian illegitimate Government has to stop. It is viewable on Rumble!
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 10:45 pm to
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You tube has already removed the video of Kari Lake Trial... is that not proof of censorship and the desire to change the narrative and hide the truth? This collusion between media and this Orwellian illegitimate Government has to stop. It is viewable on Rumble!



A quick Google yielded a lot of results of trial coverage and feeds it seems like. What am I missing?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 11:05 pm to
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Long lines equal disenfranchised voters but throwing them all out and saying do it again is totally not disenfranchisement.....noted


basically yes

Because the corruption disqualified the previous event as an election.

Toss it out and let the people have an actual election.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 1:19 am to
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CelticDog


Dodged the frick outta me itt
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 2:50 am to
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