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Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:53 am to the808bass
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Just think. If the government hadn’t lied to us two dozen times in the last year about this virus, these types of people would be much more likely to get vaccinated.
Yep, I'm pretty Old School, if you lie to me often enough, I simply stop believing you.....guess that makes me an idiot....
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:55 am to AUstar
People are dumb and unfortunately you have dumb people gobbling up what other dumb people say. I mean look at how many downvotes you’ve got
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:56 am to oogabooga68
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The people you are getting your information from also claim that millions of people crossing the Southern border won't be responsible for spreading Covid.
That’s a glaring disconnect that they never seem to be able to address in a coherent manner....in the rare case they address it at all.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:57 am to AUstar
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Doctor said 90% of people in his ICU were unvaccinated.
What was the racial make up of the 90%?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The anti vax sentiment on this board and throughout Dixie is truly one of the most tragic things I have seen.
Your ban ending is up there.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:58 am to oogabooga68
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Hey stupid: You can still get Covid, spread it to others and die if you get the Vax
What are the chances you die with the Vax vs not?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:59 am to AUstar
I've always turned out to be right.
I thought I was wrong once.
But I was mistaken.
I thought I was wrong once.
But I was mistaken.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:01 pm to Zach
The real question is "when did Rand Paul start working at UAMS Little Rock?
3:18 mark
3:18 mark
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:01 pm to AUstar
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Doctor said 90% of people in his ICU were unvaccinated.
Notice how 6 weeks ago, the phrasing was “practically all the hospitalizations are unvaccinated”. Then it went to 98%, then 95% and now the general consensus is around 90%.
And again, I have a nursing friend in Nashville that tells me her hospital doesn’t ask vaccine status. When you are treating patients, their status doesn’t really matter. But the narrative set forth by the administration at her facility is if patients are there, it’s because they aren’t vaxxed. Their numbers show that 99% of their patients “have not shown prove of vaccination”. She suspects some are vaxxed, but just not asked.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:08 pm to AUstar
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Yes, it's Vice, but the patients are real. A few observations:
1) Doctor said 90% of people in his ICU were unvaccinated.
2) Doctor said some of his patients do not believe they have COVID despite sitting in the ICU about to die. They believe the doc is lying to them and is in on some conspiracy or something I guess.
3) The two patients they interviewed probably didn't graduate HS yet are saying "there's not enough studies" and it "changes your genetics." These people couldn't tell you what DNA stands for nor would they know a medical study if it walked up and bit them on their plus sized asses. These people have probably never read a book, much less a scientific study.
Stupid people always think they're much smarter than they are. Intelligent people typically admit when they know they don't know something. This is called the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Am I being harsh? Yep and I don't care. I don't mind ignorant people who admit they're ignorant. I have no use for people who are ignorant and think they're somehow educated.
This is why I base my decision off an objective review of data along with a historical perspective.
I'm not even considering getting the vaccine for something with a ~99% survival rate until we have long-term data on it. We have seen with the Swine Flu Debacle of 1976 and Thalidomide in Europe what happens when testing is rushed and/or inadequate before widespread use is initiated.
If someone wants to participate in a rushed drug testing, especially when the drug companies are exempt from liability in cases of unforeseen side-effects, that's their right. Their fear is catching the disease, mine is that we don't have enough data yet to determine if the cure is worse than the disease.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:09 pm to AUstar
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Stupid people always think they're much smarter than they are.
Hey smart guy you know the least vaccinated portion of the population is phds right?
Also what I saw in the video were fat people, old people, or fat old people. The mother who had just given birth and test positive with zero symptoms is just to pull heart strings. She is fine and the baby will be fine, in fact the baby will likely have natural anti-bodies now.
Nice propaganda video.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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But guess what? We on the side of science
Oh really? The science on what day? Because this so called “science” that you’re so chummy with has and continues to be all over the map with Covid. It’s already morphed several times with the vaccines.
You vaxx pushers might be able to hoodwink folks who have short memories or are low info, similar to what you try to say about the unvaxxed, but I pay attention and I see the moving targets. I see very curious actions taken by many of the lib pushers now in particular who wanted no part of “Trump’s Vaccine”.
You people taking these vaccines can blow me with this “on the side of science” non-sense when I bring facts out to test your hypothesis. Fact, most vaccines are tested over the course of several years. The Covid vaccine has been out for less than a year. Fact, we were told that the shots were adequate to protect from Covid, now that has been changed to protect from the symptom severity. Fact, we were told the vaccines were adequate on their own, now due to variations and waning efficacy, you need untold amounts of booster shots every few months. I mean this is right out of the gate on the vaccines, the narrative has changed.
I might get froggy at times but don’t try to boil my arse in water…I’m on to the BS and if you want to place your trust in the “science” based off what the government and the media tells you the science is, have at it. But as for me, I will choose to reject, without my own research, what are easily the two most dishonest entities known to mankind and make my own choices.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:10 pm to AUstar
As much hate as you spew, it would be poetic justice if you found yourself on a vent in an icu.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:17 pm to AUstar
Watch Israel if you want to know the real stats.
Breakthrough cases weren’t happening in the States until indicators from Israel proved differently.
Know it’s hospitalizations are rare for the vaccinated. That narrative will fall soon as well.
78% of Israel is vaccinated. 59% of hospitalized cases (severe to critical) are vaccinated. The latter data is trending higher each reporting period & outpacing the rate of vaccinations.
It’s measuring up to show the vaccines are not providing protection anywhere near the level as touted.
Watch how these numbers report through September as the Moderna mRNA factors in. Israel has moved almost entirely from Pfizer to Moderna effective August 1st.
The other key data point will be case to hospitalized ratio. Is it lower & if so is that a function of standard viral mutation behaviors or a reflection of the Moderna effect?
I’m summary, Israel is our predictive indicator & the recent reports suggest that the US data is significantly flawed again.
Breakthrough cases weren’t happening in the States until indicators from Israel proved differently.
Know it’s hospitalizations are rare for the vaccinated. That narrative will fall soon as well.
78% of Israel is vaccinated. 59% of hospitalized cases (severe to critical) are vaccinated. The latter data is trending higher each reporting period & outpacing the rate of vaccinations.
It’s measuring up to show the vaccines are not providing protection anywhere near the level as touted.
Watch how these numbers report through September as the Moderna mRNA factors in. Israel has moved almost entirely from Pfizer to Moderna effective August 1st.
The other key data point will be case to hospitalized ratio. Is it lower & if so is that a function of standard viral mutation behaviors or a reflection of the Moderna effect?
I’m summary, Israel is our predictive indicator & the recent reports suggest that the US data is significantly flawed again.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:18 pm to AUstar
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Stupid people always think they're much smarter than they are.
They should realistically rename this subforum Dunning-Kruger.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:18 pm to AUstar
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Yes, it's Vice,
So these are all transgendered patients.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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one of the most tragic things I have seen.
Your posts are that to me.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:23 pm to boogiewoogie1978
If you really look at the data, I don't know how ANYONE can come away with a different conclusion than that AGE is the determining factor.
You can slice and dice vax status, but it really looks like age is the determining factor and vax status is just a subordinate ride along. Often, most deaths are unvaxxed (when data is shared), but they are STILL over 65.
If the data were better, and they showed comorbidities real time, you could make better conclusions....but for some reason 1.5yrs of data collection hasn't yielded that except for long-term summaries.
You can slice and dice vax status, but it really looks like age is the determining factor and vax status is just a subordinate ride along. Often, most deaths are unvaxxed (when data is shared), but they are STILL over 65.
If the data were better, and they showed comorbidities real time, you could make better conclusions....but for some reason 1.5yrs of data collection hasn't yielded that except for long-term summaries.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 12:24 pm
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