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re: If you were Donald J Trump the Great, how would you have handled Iran?
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:32 am to RollTide4Ever
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:32 am to RollTide4Ever
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Did you see Max Boot act like he had nothing to do with this war?
In the revisionist history of the war, the principal boosters will be recast as the intelligent sages who advised against it, and Trump will be cast as the impulsive fool who started the war against their recommendations. We will all know better. Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:33 am to AlterEd
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The roughly 20 or 30 Sun Tzu's on this board led by the esteemed ambulance chaser himself
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 7:34 am
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:34 am to SlidellCajun
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According to trump, Iran is debilitated
But it is clear that they are not
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:40 am to RajFromBengaliLand
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It’s honestly crazy when you google the topography of Iran. They don’t even need nukes.
Exactly. You can’t spend money and military resources to overcome a geographical advantage. Surrounded my mountains, internal desserts as barriers, control of the SoH. And they are ally with #2 and #3 world top dog.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:47 am to RajFromBengaliLand
I would have listened to Rand Paul and Thomas Massie, instead of Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham and Benjamin Netanyahu.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:49 am to RajFromBengaliLand
Likely not give them over $300b (1/3 of our defense budget). For one.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:50 am to RajFromBengaliLand
I really dont know what intelligence Trump was given to put myself in his shoes. I'm no fan of foreign intervention but Trump has been nothing like uniparty presidents before him so I just give him the benefit of the doubt on this whole situation. I think everyone can agree that Iran not having nukes it best for everyone.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:53 am to RajFromBengaliLand
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How would you have approached Iran if you were in Trump’s shoes?
1. Their money? No, that's OUR money and it will be used to pay for the arms and intel we've needed to combat the regional terrorism they've funded. I would even have a receipt printed out.
2. Engage them militarily until they beg to surrender. Along with the asymmetrical warfare we saw taking out successive levels of their leadership, I would destroy every military installation as well as any mobile missile sites we could find. Every. Single. one. After that, boots on the ground entering as close as possible to where the IRGC's largest concentration of leadership resides. As we pushed in we would stage areas for retreat because the push would actually be a setup for a series of feigned retreats once we reached what we thought might be their strongest resistance. The key here would be to convince them they were winning so they would over-commit by the time we closed the trap. After that, we tear through what's left and demand surrender rather than negotiation. We then quietly set it up so that whatever civilian structure replaces the government puts the leaders of the old regime in front of firing squads (the goal being to make the religious zealots as persona non grata as Nazis post-WW2).
3. Work a 50-year deal with the new civilian government to provide US-controlled uranium refinement for US-controlled nuclear power stations within the country.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:53 am to grizzlylongcut
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Damn sure wouldn’t have let them close the strait.
Trump said Iran never controlled the Strait multiple times.
This has to be the first time the USA ever had to surrender in a war.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:54 am to notsince98
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I really dont know what intelligence Trump was given
I'd imagine it was another case of our best allies with the best intelligence telling him that Iran was ripe for the picking.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 8:42 am to RajFromBengaliLand
After the bombing campaign hitting known IRGC military targets, I would have armed the protestors including suicide drones and Ghaddafi the remnants by backing up the uprising with directed support.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 8:52 am to Auburn1968
The protestors had all been slaughtered by that point.
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:31 am to Woodsman
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and their people started to protests. All we had to do was wait for their people to rebel.
Did you miss the part where they were murdered?
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:42 am to Bard
We must consider whether nation-state USA has the capability to complete a military operation like you describe. Do the American people want that? Can the US economy pay for that?
Also, there's a legal issue - The War Powers Act. Trump's military campaign to conquer Radical Iran like the US conquered Nazi Germany seems like a campaign that is outside of the War Power Act, so, such a campaign might be illegal.
I agree with your plan completely, but, I wonder whether the 2026 version of the USA has the capability to invade and replace an evil radical Islamic regime in a place as large as Iran.
That military effort would require total mobilization of all US National Guard and Reserve forces, including bringing everybody currently in the Inactive Reserve back to active duty. It would be a massive national war effort not seen since the USA mobilized to fight WW2.
I'd like to think that my country could do it, but, when I realistically try to analyze the real situation, it gives me pause.
Also, there's a legal issue - The War Powers Act. Trump's military campaign to conquer Radical Iran like the US conquered Nazi Germany seems like a campaign that is outside of the War Power Act, so, such a campaign might be illegal.
I agree with your plan completely, but, I wonder whether the 2026 version of the USA has the capability to invade and replace an evil radical Islamic regime in a place as large as Iran.
That military effort would require total mobilization of all US National Guard and Reserve forces, including bringing everybody currently in the Inactive Reserve back to active duty. It would be a massive national war effort not seen since the USA mobilized to fight WW2.
I'd like to think that my country could do it, but, when I realistically try to analyze the real situation, it gives me pause.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:49 am to RajFromBengaliLand
I would have sold Israel a nuclear submarine and allowed them use of our supply bases.
If Iran launches a nuke at Israel they better hope it gets through because Israel will glass Iran.
If Iran launches a nuke at Israel they better hope it gets through because Israel will glass Iran.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:03 am to RajFromBengaliLand
Nothing. Would not have bought the fairy tales from Netanyahoo about the nukes. We just bombed them last year. Would have told him to just go bomb them if he is worried about it. We have stuff to do.
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:06 am to RajFromBengaliLand
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If you were Donald J Trump the Great, how would you have handled Iran?
Rely on the concept of mutually assured destruction which is a proven concept that's worked since 1945.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:09 am to RajFromBengaliLand
Just leveled them with nukes, but we'll have to see where we're at in 3 or 4 years to properly gauge how this was handled.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:10 am to UtahCajun
It would appear that they are not because they evidently have enough leverage to make some demands on us and surrounding countries
If Iran is as weak as Trump has said, then why give them squat? We could just walk away knowing that they’re weaker than they were 4 months ago.
Personally, I think they’re in bad shape. They have over $100billion in frozen assets. They struggle to sell their oil at least in the open market. They have leadership turmoil. They exhausted a lot of weaponry. Their nuclear capacity isn’t developed to a point of military efficacy. Inflation is rampant.
The “deal” that trump struck is just really weak.
If Iran is as weak as Trump has said, then why give them squat? We could just walk away knowing that they’re weaker than they were 4 months ago.
Personally, I think they’re in bad shape. They have over $100billion in frozen assets. They struggle to sell their oil at least in the open market. They have leadership turmoil. They exhausted a lot of weaponry. Their nuclear capacity isn’t developed to a point of military efficacy. Inflation is rampant.
The “deal” that trump struck is just really weak.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:14 am to RajFromBengaliLand
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Forget having the foresight of Iran not being a major geopolitical power that most economists and military advisors warn you about—bunch of morons who scream out about resource binded straits as if they know anything.
Like Maduro, just kick the door down and see the whole rotten structure fall.
How would you have approached Iran if you were in Trump’s shoes? TD think tank unite!
Obviously the best way to handle any ME conflicts is to try and avoid them at all costs.
Here's the conundrum expressed with a question the US has been facing since the Islamic Regime took control in 1979.
Should the US allow the Islamic Regime to develop weapons that threaten their neighbors in the ME and eventually nations around the world or does the US confront the Islamic Regime while the US still has the overwhelming military superiority to do so?
I've always believed the confrontation between the West and the Islamists is unavoidable and inevitable because the Islam at its core belief ensures the confrontation is inevitable.
I think Trump's timing to attack Iran in the run up to the 2026 midterms is a head scratcher, particularly when there is so much that needs to be addressed domestically and that will be difficult if not impossible to accomplish without control of Congress.
Trump could have given Israel the green light to carry out any military activities against their neighboring enemies they deem necessary to ensure the sovereignty of Israel. The US should continue to provide military weaponry and intelligence to Israel but otherwise avoid direct involvement in Israel's military activities. And when I say provide Israel with military weaponry I mean sell them the military weaponry. I'm so sick and tired of the US picking up the bulk of the tab for all the BS!!!
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