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re: ‘If you close Hormuz, we will kill you before you make it back to your f–king country.’
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:25 pm to RazorBroncs
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:25 pm to RazorBroncs
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Shipping traffic in the Strait has come to a standstill as we speak.
No it hasn't.
Why make that up?
https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PUBLIC-RELEASES/Article/4522490/commercial-vessels-flow-through-open-strait-of-hormuz/
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:25 pm to deuceiswild
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:26 pm to deuceiswild
quote:I absolutely agree with this. Do you think military economics play a part? That is, concerning massive strategic air strikes, does the idea of diminishing returns come in to play?
War is about more than military might. Politics and economics are a part of it too.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:27 pm to bamatrader
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Welp, it's closed. So, now what?
No it's not.
Another one lying. Where are you getting this from?
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:27 pm to Pragmatist2025
I do think it comes into play at some point. I’m not smart enough to know if we’ve reached that point yet.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:28 pm to MrLSU
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:36 pm to deuceiswild
quote:Same. It’s not like the U.S. would just come out and say that, but the scaling back came about 6-7 weeks into the conflict, so just wondering.
I’m not smart enough to know if we’ve reached that point yet.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:40 pm to Pragmatist2025
I never said it would be easy, Trump indeed made it easier, I guess most Iranians just don’t care enough. If they don’t care, why should we.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:43 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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The issue is still the same. Iran can hit pipelines with drones and missiles and even easier than ships.
I don’t know that’s entirely true because my understanding is a big part of the threat to shipping is actually mines, but the reality is that makes the decision tree even more straight forward if you accept your premise.
Absent a full scale ground invasion followed by successful regime change which is estimated by pentagon sources to cost between 50-100k casualties or the use of nuclear weapons on civilian areas we have to make a deal or force the world into a massive economic downturn when the oil runs out.
We tried regime change, it failed.
Now they’re pissed, the leverage has shifted because fuel supplies are almost gone and unless we figure out how to get oil out of the gulf states without putting them in easy range of Irans ability to destroy the shipping that currently moves it they get to call the terms of the peace deal.
We are exactly where Israel wanted us when they were talking us into the conflict: caught between a bad peace deal or a larger entanglement where we suffer the consequences and they reap the rewards of a weakened or civil war torn Iran that cannot threaten their position in the region just like they’ve done to Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:45 pm to tide06
Taco has said 200 times he will blow them off the map and yall fall for it every time.
He won’t do jack shite
He won’t do jack shite
This post was edited on 6/21/26 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:47 pm to trinidadtiger
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Some ships have been going through and the US navy has destroyed boats and drones that have tried to stop them.
If Iran had all this military power left wouldnt it be in their overwhelming best interest to sink a tanker.....and they havent done shat???????????????
Some of you hate Trump more than you care for our country.
Again, who the frick are you directing this to? I agree with everything you wrote, and I’ve posted the same thing on here twenty times.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:48 pm to BCvol
quote:IMO, there is a significant distinction between indifference and inability.
If they don’t care, why should we.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:48 pm to dallastiger55
Who is taco? Using weird nicknames only someone on blue sky would understand doesnt help your premise.
Assuming you’re referring to Trump, he really did blow up many of them repeatedly, so it’s not exactly an idle threat.
Whether that would actually open up the strait is what is in question.
Assuming you’re referring to Trump, he really did blow up many of them repeatedly, so it’s not exactly an idle threat.
Whether that would actually open up the strait is what is in question.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 4:01 pm to Gusoline
Tell Bibi that. He's got Ben Gvir and the Finance Minister to deal with in his own country. They are the Jewish equivalent to zealots.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 4:06 pm to tide06
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which is estimated by pentagon sources to cost between 50-100k casualties
This will never happen again due to Vietnam. We will never commit to something like that unless the actual USA was invaded. That casualty level of risk will never be sent to a foreign theater ever again.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 4:15 pm to Chuck Barris
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You and/or your son first.
I am a Retired Army Airborne Soldier.
I am cut out for this work.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 4:17 pm to loogaroo
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I quoted Kane directly from Citizen Free Press.
Yet you showed a tweet from Trey Yingst, the Fox News correspondent who spoke to Trump. And his direct quote is very different from what you stated above.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 4:18 pm to Pragmatist2025
When there’s a will there’s a way. Of course they can’t fight a battle straight up. That’s no excuse when our modern world gives us thousands of ways to fight
Posted on 6/21/26 at 4:18 pm to idlewatcher
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Time to destroy it all
OMB has pretty well accomplished that already, with him aimless unilateral war. He was ranting in an interview earlier today about "he didn't want to become another Hoover." Trump's actions in Iran guarantees closure of the strait and likely a developing worldwide economic depression. Remove him already, por favor.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 4:29 pm to bamatrader
quote:
it's closed. So, now what?
Just sit back and watch your 401k's take a roundhouse punch to the nuts. Wouldn't be shocked to see the S&P 500 take a 1000 point fall tomorrow
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