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re: “If Tyre Nichols Had Complied He Would Still Be Alive….”
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:41 pm to El Segundo Guy
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:41 pm to El Segundo Guy
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You have the situational awareness of a soccer mom
Because I don't ball my fist at every cop that comes within 100 yards of me?
Ok...
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:47 pm to Azkiger
No. Because you have an irrational belief that everyone is to be trusted.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:53 pm to El Segundo Guy
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No. Because you have an irrational belief that everyone is to be trusted.
Oh, why didn't you tell me you have the reading comprehension of a second-grader?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:56 pm to SquaringCircles
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if the memo was sent out that the only option is to submit. Argue your innocence and your rights later. Don’t try to reason with a keyed up guy with a gun on his hip. Just submit.
arguing about what rights you have later on means you don't have those rights. don't try to reason, just submit... this is the holy grail of bootlicking
Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:24 pm to SquaringCircles
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Don’t try to reason with a keyed up guy with a gun on his hip. Just submit.
Now what interesting about this statement is there's no shortage of folks who carry, and believe in the second amendment, just so they can avoid having to submit to thugs who threaten them.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:29 pm to Azkiger
So, there wasn't much rioting. Hmmm, I wonder why?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:16 pm to High Desert
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But saying it is giving the cops a pass. That the observation is TRUE, is an indictment of the police and their complete lack of professionalism, decent training, or worthiness to hold a badge.
You just said two completely contradictory things.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:28 pm to El Segundo Guy
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implies that they were just doing their jobs and he didn't "comply" hard enough.
Your take is the exact opposite of what I meant.
The numbskull who made this thread said the guy would still be alive if he hadn’t fought back.
And I said, he also would still be alive if the cops hadn’t pulled him over for the traffic violation.
Simply meaning, there are a myriad of things that we could say that the guy would still be alive. It was meant as a “ what ifs are stupid.” It was no defense of the cops.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:42 pm to Houag80
In my opinion, I don’t think they purposely wanted to kill him, but they meant to give him a beat down to remember and they went too far. Whether they were targeting him for personal reasons or not.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:50 pm to Revelator
Here's the problem. They said they pulled him over for reckless driving, but thus far there is no bodycam or dashcam footage to substantiate that claim. We see the whole thing beginning when he is stopped and the cops bull rush the car and yank him out.
Maybe Nichols decides or analyzes on his own that these guys are getting ready to have a party with him as the pinata and he probably has no clue because 5 people are yelling at him to get down ....get on the ground, etc.
Maybe Nichols decides or analyzes on his own that these guys are getting ready to have a party with him as the pinata and he probably has no clue because 5 people are yelling at him to get down ....get on the ground, etc.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:51 pm to Revelator
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And I said, he also would still be alive if the cops hadn’t pulled him over for the traffic violation.
Why should we believe anything claimed by these violent psychopaths? Indeed, everything claimed by these murderous thugs is now tainted.
This wasn’t a routine traffic stop gone wrong. This was a violent criminal assault done under the pretext of the law.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:08 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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I’ve had a difference of opinion with you on a relative few issues but have always been respectful of those differences and never have resorted to name-calling.
You are right. I apologize
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:19 pm to KiwiHead
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KiwiHead
We’ve seen speculation in this thread and elsewhere about possible external motivating factors for the utter viciousness of the assault upon the victim. Regardless of that motivation, it is clear that these cops were animalistic thugs operating under the color of the law.
These aren’t just dirty cops — these are recklessly violent sociopaths. After watching this video, it is incomprehensible to me that the knee-jerk reaction by many here after watching the video of this beating would be that the initial stop itself was made for a legitimate reason.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:33 pm to Revelator
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Revelator
It happens — we all are human. I enjoy rigorous debate — but you get what you give with me. So 5 stones are cast at me for every stone I cast at another.
It was out of character for you is what caught me off guard. I always value your contributions to this forum — especially your input on matters of the spirit and soul.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:45 pm to Toomer Deplorable
I don't know if it is or isn't because we don't have the video like we do for the rest of the encounter(s). All we see is the point where enraged cops are storming this guy's car and he seems confused and wanting to comply but never getting a chance to comply or know why he is being pulled over much less arrested.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:34 pm to Azkiger
quote:False.
There are about a million police officers in America, if the majority were as shittily trained as you say, Tyre Nicholes would be an hourly occurrence, not a monthly/yearly one.
The products of their horrible training and horrible view of their authority DO display themselves constantly and are caught on video constantly.
Actual murder of a suspect is but the tiny subset of results that garner national attention.
Most of the time their terrible training and beliefs simply result in false application of the laws which lead to small scale lawsuits and other such things. But those are the canary in the coal mine.
When you see an officer who can't avoid losing his cool in extremely simple situations, it's a tell that when the situation is ACTUALLY tough, that dude is gonna get someone killed.
Quite frequently, when some officer REALLY fricks up and it makes national news, it comes out shortly thereafter that the officer had many lower level problems and everyone acts stunned that it came to this.
I'll guarantee you that the officers in this video didn't just start being thugs last week.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 6:25 pm to KiwiHead
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I don't know if it is or isn't because we don't have the video like we do for the rest of the encounter(s).
Just to be clear, I don’t either. Yet until proven otherwise, the murdered victim should get the presumption of innocent since the criminal element in the video released so far is the police.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 1/30/23 at 6:52 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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In my opinion, I don’t think they purposely wanted to kill him, but they meant to give him a beat down to remember and they went too far.
Cops shouldn't be in the business of giving beat downs to remember. That's outside their job and frankly roughing up suspects should immediately get you fired.
I don't trust cops because I know cops. They're people, they have bad days, get mad, make mistakes etc. Arming then to the teeth and providing more shooting training that de-escalation training got us here. end of day even the best intentioned police officer is human and susceptible to bad judgement.
Let alone shitty intentioned ones doing real harm who get protected by fellow cops and systems built to appeal black marks on resumes for poor performance or lack of performance of duties
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:26 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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If Tyre Nichols Had Complied He Would Still Be Alive….”
No he wouldn’t. He was executed.
Facebook Link
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Turns out… #TyreNichols worked at Fed Ex and Demetrius Haley’s ex and mother of his child worked at Fed Ex too!! Demetrius took a picture of #TyreNichols on the ground and sent it to his ex… All the officers involved went out bad over this man’s personal issue!!! #TyreNichols and his ex had a relationship.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 1/30/23 at 8:32 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Stunning take in today’s iq-less society. If he doesn’t act like a non-compliant jackass, does he still catch a beat down?
I submit the following evidence - how many of these brutality tapes have we seen where the victim fully cooperates? Anyone?
I submit the following evidence - how many of these brutality tapes have we seen where the victim fully cooperates? Anyone?
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