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re: “If Tyre Nichols Had Complied He Would Still Be Alive….”
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:33 am to Azkiger
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:33 am to Azkiger
quote:I don't really care if you consider it or not.
I'd actually consider your opinion if you understood the point of making simple comparisons.
Anyone voluntarily allowing a search of their property is retarded.
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:34 am to MoarKilometers
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but walk me through the Charles Kinsey shooting and legal outcome.
Wasn't the shooting an accident? It's been a while, but as far as I can remember the SWAT member who fired was a ways away, and was aiming at his patient who was waving around something silver (a toy car) that he perceived as a gun.
Even still, the exceptions don't disprove the rule, they prove the rule.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:35 am to High Desert
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Anyone voluntarily allowing a search of their property is retarded.
Why?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:38 am to High Desert
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Anyone voluntarily allowing a search of their property is retarded.
Never ever let them search your property without a warrant.
This used to be common knowledge, people are just getting dumber.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:40 am to Azkiger
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Why?
Because you have rights and to willingly give up ANY right just doesn't make any sense.
And you're putting yourself at the mercy of a potentially "bad" cop. Their word will always trump your word.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:44 am to Azkiger
quote:You cannot be serious. You've ALREADY admitted that some cops can't be trusted. Please tell me I don't have to hold your dick on this one.
Anyone voluntarily allowing a search of their property is retarded.
Why?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The dude actually asked "why".
Never ever let them search your property without a warrant.
This used to be common knowledge, people are just getting dumber.
I mean, c'mon.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:47 am to Jake88
Agreed, but when the police say STOP, you STOP.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:48 am to El Segundo Guy
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Because you have rights and to willingly give up ANY right just doesn't make any sense.
"Giving up a rights" carries a different connotation than allowing an officer to, say, search your car. I still retain the right to privacy an hour later, when I'm driving home. The cop cannot follow me and search my home because I gave him a one-time pass to search my car.
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And you're putting yourself at the mercy of a potentially "bad" cop. Their word will always trump your word.
Aren't you always at the mercy of a bad cop? Say, again, its a traffic stop, and he claims to have smelled weed. Can he search my car?
Maybe I piss a bad cop off by telling him no, and he really puts a magnifying glass to me and my car because I told him that he cannot search my car.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:48 am to Azkiger
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Wasn't the shooting an accident?
Yes. The moron officer unnecessarily shot at one person and accidentally hit the other. Alas, the shot itself was idiotic.
quote:Yay. cops pulling triggers over idiocy.
nd was aiming at his patient who was waving around something silver (a toy car) that he perceived as a gun.
quote:The RULE is that cops are horribly trained or worse, trained counter to what any rational citizen should be OK with.
Even still, the exceptions don't disprove the rule, they prove the rule.
And, this rule manifests itself fricking daily in America. It just doesn't manage to rise to straight up murder frequently.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:50 am to El Segundo Guy
quote:
And you're putting yourself at the mercy of a potentially "bad" cop.
Yep.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:51 am to Azkiger
quote:Go ask the people in NC who "let" a cop who seemed by all accounts, SUPER polite.......search their car.
Aren't you always at the mercy of a bad cop? Say, again, its a traffic stop, and he claims to have smelled weed. Can he search my car?
First off, his entire leadership should ALSO be in jail, but yeah, their gullibility didn't help them.
quote:Sheesh. This is fricking battered wife syndrome.
Maybe I piss a bad cop off by telling him no, and he really puts a magnifying glass to me and my car because I told him that he cannot search my car.
Also, this one kinda made me chuckle because there's no shortage of videos of illegal home searches either.
quote:
"Giving up a rights" carries a different connotation than allowing an officer to, say, search your car. I still retain the right to privacy an hour later, when I'm driving home. The cop cannot follow me and search my home because I gave him a one-time pass to search my car.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:53 am to High Desert
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The RULE is that cops are horribly trained or worse
Citation needed.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:55 am to High Desert
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Sheesh. This is fricking battered wife syndrome.
I'm sure you're telling officers how shitily they've been trained when they pull you over. Because, you know, you're not a beaten wife and all.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:00 pm to Azkiger
quote:No. I simply operate under the assumption that they are shittily trained, have power issues, and are likely to frick me.
I'm sure you're telling officers how shitily they've been trained when they pull you over. Because, you know, you're not a beaten wife and all.
That way I don't foolishly act like they're my fricking friend and say, "yeah man, search my car, no problem".
Then, if the cop I'm dealing with is a good cop, I will have zero issues.............cause, ya know. GOOD cop.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:01 pm to Azkiger
quote:I'm guessing you're also too obtuse to know that when cops are asking you questions, you SHUT THE frick UP.
I'm sure you're telling officers how shitily they've been trained when they pull you over. Because, you know, you're not a beaten wife and all.
Cops are NEVER asking you questions for YOUR benefit. EVER. Not even the good ones.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:02 pm to High Desert
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No. I simply operate under the assumption that they are shittily trained, have power issues, and are likely to frick me.
There are about a million police officers in America, if the majority were as shittily trained as you say, Tyre Nicholes would be an hourly occurrence, not a monthly/yearly one.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:10 pm to Azkiger
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There are about a million police officers in America, if the majority were as shittily trained as you say, Tyre Nicholes would be an hourly occurrence, not a monthly/yearly one.
If these excessive force lawsuits came directly out of the police pension funds instead of on the backs of taxpayers- the good police officers whose pensions will be impacted would step in and clean up their union buddies ….facts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:10 pm to Azkiger
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Azkiger
You have the situational awareness of a soccer mom.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:38 pm to Jake88
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But, if the guy gets out and cooperates during the initial encounter, is he dead today?
Daniel Shaver would disagree, if he were alive today.
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