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re: “If Tyre Nichols Had Complied He Would Still Be Alive….”
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:50 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:50 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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And that whole narrative was utter B.S. from the git-go
Not divining their motives still isn't defending them. You may not agree with someone's take, but if it ends with "the cops were wrong" or "the cops should be in jail" then that's not defending the cops.
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:51 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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cops were violent thugs recklessly operating under the color of the law.
Yes it was.
But the bigger statement is that this can't be pigeonholed as an isolated incident. To assume a police officer is there to protect and serve you as some kind of noble duty, well that's absurd.
Police departments are strife with corruption and you are just a citizen. They are nit to be trusted anymore anyone else that's just cashing a paycheck.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:58 pm to Flats
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You may not agree with someone's take, but if it ends with "the cops were wrong" or "the cops should be in jail" then that's not defending the cops.
The ONLY reason it was assumed the traffic stop was legitimate was because they were wearing a police uniform. That is the very definition of defending the cops.
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:22 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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That is the very definition of defending the cops.
No, defending the cops is defending the cops. You're trying to claim that not automatically assigning a criminal motive to any action they take is defending the cops. That's clown world.
If I see a cop sitting in the median for a speed trap, a shitty but legal action, I'm not defending him if I don't assume that he's also there to illegally plant evidence on the next person he stops.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:24 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Hard to say, the cops came so hard defcon 5 from the get go. No escalation, just straight wide open bad cop from the beginning. Makes me think there is more going on here
Yeah, I may have run too.
Those dudes were out for blood.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:44 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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But, if the guy gets out and cooperates during the initial encounter, is he dead today?
He was going to get tuned up either way. Very possible he may have still ended up dead.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:49 pm to Flats
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You're trying to claim that not automatically assigning a criminal motive to any action they take is defending the cops. That's clown world.
These cops wantonly beat this poor sap into a senseless stupor and he died from internal hemorrhaging in the hospital. What is clown world is to assume that any police function by these violent goons preceding this brutal murder was legitimate.
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:55 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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These cops wantonly beat this poor sap into a senseless stupor and he died from internal hemorrhaging in the hospital.
Yes, and if someone watched the video and said “they murdered him” they’re not defending the cops.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 11:06 pm to Flats
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Yes, and if someone watched the video and said “they murdered him” they’re not defending the cops.
And if someone watched the video and said “If only he would have complied…” they most certainly are defending the cops.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 11:09 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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“If only he would have complied…” they most certainly are defending the cops.
Not really. Complying is always going to be the smart and safest thing to do.
This wasn’t a traffic stop though. This was a premeditated organized hit.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 11:16 pm to Toomer Deplorable
I haven’t heard almost anyone suggest the cops shouldn’t rot.
Also if he complied he would be alive. Each can be true.
Also if he complied he would be alive. Each can be true.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 11:20 pm to El Segundo Guy
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But the bigger statement is that this can't be pigeonholed as an isolated incident. To assume a police officer is there to protect and serve you as some kind of noble duty, well that's absurd. Police departments are strife with corruption and you are just a citizen. They are nit to be trusted anymore anyone else that's just cashing a paycheck.
Is this your way of saying at least it started a conversation?
Posted on 2/11/23 at 11:23 pm to Rebel
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Complying is always going to be the smart and safest thing to do.
With law abiding cops, perhaps. Yet the video evidence released made clear that these were criminal thugs intent on inflicting violent mayhem upon Nichols regardless of whether he complied or not.
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This wasn’t a traffic stop though. This was a premeditated organized hit.
Exactly. And that is the whole point of the OP: watching the brutal nature of the assault indicated that these cops had criminal intent and the reason for the initial traffic stop should be impugned.
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 2/11/23 at 11:30 pm to GnashRebel
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Also if he complied he would be alive.
Total B.S.
Especially after it is becoming evident that these cops specifically targeted Nichols for a violent assault.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 8:07 am to Flats
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He wasn't complying. Ignore his words and focus on his actions; that's what the police are trained to do. If you're giving commands and somebody is nodding and smiling and saying yes, yes, while they disobey those commands, their intentions are not good.
If the stop was for an illegal lane change, then it's not usual police procedure to run up to the car and drag him out.
For such a minor incident, the subject is told to stay in the car. To be asked out of the car if it is warranted later.
Any possibility that as it all unfolded that he realized this wasn't "a usual arrest" that something else was going on here.
Did he recognize the cop who was connected to the female, and then it all became clear to him. Instinct was at work here.
His running didn't contribute to his death. It was those full-on roundhouse rights from that stocky cop while the subject's hands were manacled behind his back in which he couldn't even tense himself against.
The same cop who was kicking him in his head while he was on the ground, and kept kicking him. Total violation of correct police procedure.
There's no way to soft peddle their actions.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 8:46 am to GnashRebel
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Also if he complied he would be alive.
There is absolutely no way an intelligent person can pay attention to the facts of this case and draw this conclusion.
Such a stupid narrative has been thoroughly debunked in this thread. It’s embarrassing that any retard thinks they can jump in after 17 pages and make such a moronic claim.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 8:59 am to Willie Stroker
Imagine these other cops that are going to prison for the rest of their lives because the one guy's wife was getting banged by the victim. If your woman fricks around, it's time to just move on. Now these cops will be getting fricked left and right for the rest of their years. They deserve everything that's coming their way.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 9:50 am to Willie Stroker
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There is absolutely no way an intelligent person can pay attention to the facts of this case and draw this conclusion.
“If only this convenience store clerk had complied with this thug’s request, he would not have been shot and beaten….”
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:02 am to Toomer Deplorable
all of these deaths to cops have 1 thing in common, had they complied, still would be alive.
#FACTS
michael brown doesnt attack cop, hes alive.
floyd complies, he's alive till later, when he strokes out in hospital or in cell.
etc and etc.
once u decide not to comply, everything changes for the bad, for everyone.
And that memphis killing was more than just cops killing him. they either have gang ties, and this was a hit, or he had ties to them in some way, and they made an example out of him.
#FACTS
michael brown doesnt attack cop, hes alive.
floyd complies, he's alive till later, when he strokes out in hospital or in cell.
etc and etc.
once u decide not to comply, everything changes for the bad, for everyone.
And that memphis killing was more than just cops killing him. they either have gang ties, and this was a hit, or he had ties to them in some way, and they made an example out of him.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:05 am to Flats
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He wasn't complying. Ignore his words and focus on his actions; that's what the police are trained to do
Idiot
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