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“If Tyre Nichols Had Complied He Would Still Be Alive….”
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:05 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:05 am
Frick the general tenor of this noise.
There is no context or ameliorating circumstances in which this murder should be considered beyond what we all see in the video.
These cops are bloodthirsty, inhuman animals that should be locked in a cage for a very long time for this savagery.
A pox on anyone who — in any form or fashion — attempts to blame this dead man for the brutality of these murderous pigs.
There is no context or ameliorating circumstances in which this murder should be considered beyond what we all see in the video.
These cops are bloodthirsty, inhuman animals that should be locked in a cage for a very long time for this savagery.
A pox on anyone who — in any form or fashion — attempts to blame this dead man for the brutality of these murderous pigs.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 12:34 pm
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:09 am to Toomer Deplorable
The cops should rot in jail.
But, if the guy gets out and cooperates during the initial encounter, is he dead today?
But, if the guy gets out and cooperates during the initial encounter, is he dead today?
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:12 am to Jake88
I typically agree with the comply line of thought, but this case feels much different. From the very get go they were so verbally aggressive, conflicting demands, screaming over each other, and being physical with him. He could do nothing right, it escalated extremely quickly. I don’t blame him for running, I think he legit feared for his life.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:13 am to Jake88
Don’t really know, guy acted weird, like he was under some influence, or knew an arse beating was coming, or just scared of the cops… We’ve seen this before, that when you run from the cops, it just goes to a new level, emotions get out of hand. Can’t really answer what would have happened, but something was way off here….
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:14 am to Jake88
quote:
The cops should rot in jail. But, if the guy gets out and cooperates during the initial encounter, is he dead today?
People who think with emotion can’t separate the two.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:15 am to Toomer Deplorable
Why’d he run if innocent?
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:15 am to CamdenTiger
I can't know all the issues at play here, but my point is that if he had just submitted, more likely than not he'd be alive today. That is not an excuse for the cops, just thought about the victim's chances of survival.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:16 am to Toomer Deplorable
I haven’t heard anyone say the cops shouldn’t be in trouble.
He also didn’t comply and should have.
Both can be true
He also didn’t comply and should have.
Both can be true
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:16 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
“If Tyre Nichols Had Complied He Would Still Be Alive….”
Hard to say, the cops came so hard defcon 5 from the get go. No escalation, just straight wide open bad cop from the beginning. Makes me think there is more going on here
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 8:17 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:17 am to Jake88
There’s nothing wrong with your statement. If he was innocent , remain calm and get rich from a civil rights lawsuit. Instead he ran and struggled which attributed to his fate.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:20 am to momentoftruth87
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Why’d he run if innocent?
Because he was being handled in a way that suggested compliance was not working.
You can’t keep doing the same thing and expect different results.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:20 am to Willie Stroker
So running away is going to improve the situation? 
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:22 am to Jake88
quote:He was pulled over for basically an illegal lane change. He stopped his car for the cops, then the cops ran up to the car and yanked him out like he had just committed a bank robbery.
But, if the guy gets out and cooperates during the initial encounter, is he dead today?
He was on the ground but the cops were yelling "get on the ground!" Then they yelled at him to get on his belly, but you see on cop holding his legs with another cop pulling his top arm behind his back, twisting him opposite his belly.
Then they decide to pepper spray and taze him but wind up spraying themselves. Only at that point does he really resist by running for his life.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:24 am to Willie Stroker
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Because he was being handled in a way that suggested compliance was not working.
He wasn't complying. Ignore his words and focus on his actions; that's what the police are trained to do. If you're giving commands and somebody is nodding and smiling and saying yes, yes, while they disobey those commands, their intentions are not good.
What I just described is military training but I'd be willing to bet they hear the same stuff.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 8:26 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:25 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
Makes me think there is more going on here.
Same here. Tuning up a bad guy is one thing but trying to kick this guy’s head through the uprights while he’s being held down has a different feel.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:25 am to mmcgrath
You left out the part where he ran then continued to resist.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:29 am to Flats
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He wasn't complying. Ignore his words and focus on his actions;
Are you fricking high?
They say get on the ground while he’s already on the ground
They keep saying “hands” when one of the cops has his left hand restrained, and his right hand is just raised.
Yelling at him to lay down, he is already face down on the ground at that point
At no point during any of this is he even squirming, let alone full on resisting
Did you actually watch the video or are you blind? This is levels of bootlicking cope that can fly as generic comments for most cases but gtfo, this case is bad and none of that garbage you said is relevant
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 8:33 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:32 am to momentoftruth87
quote:
You left out the part where he ran then continued to resist.
You mean the part where he had done everything they asked him to do, but they just keep screaming louder? Then as he’s laying on the ground like they asked they start pepper spraying and then tasing him?
Exactly how much abuse are you willing to take? You just allow others to escalate further and further and start harming you even when you’re complying? How brave of you, bet your girl’s strap on has quite the girth.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:33 am to Jake88
quote:You obviously didn't watch Video 1.
The cops should rot in jail.
But, if the guy gets out and cooperates during the initial encounter, is he dead today?
There was nothing the guy (in which the Chief of Police said there was no evidence he was driving recklessly) could do to cooperate.
There is no playing contrarian or moderate with this one. There is no excuse. The officer grabbed him out of the car. After he was detained in cuffs; they beat the crap out of him and kicked him while he was half hogtied.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:33 am to Jake88
quote:
I can't know all the issues at play here, but my point is that if he had just submitted, more likely than not he'd be alive today
Maybe. Maybe not. Given how poorly these cops behaved certainly far from a given. His life was in the cops hands, not the other way around.
There's a world where he complies/behaves, he still dies anyway. It's certainly happened before. There's no world where the cops do their job correctly, this guy dies. That's the OPs point and what everyone should be rightfully focusing on.
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