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re: If Drag Queens intentions are pure, why don't they simply wear their everyday clothes
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:51 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:51 pm to AggieHank86
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She taught me far better grammar and usage than the norm.
Actually you said she "beat it into you"....
A Psychiatrist would have a field day with that statement and your Cluster B personality traits.
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I like to joke about it when people say or imply that I sound like Frasier or Niles.
The only person that says that about you is you.
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:55 pm to AggieHank86
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Grow up with the pop psychology.
Remember when you accused people of being secretly gay?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:58 pm to AggieHank86
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If you want to discuss the topic of your thread, I enjoy the exchange. But this childishness is unnecessary.
No, no , sweet summer child....
You have ZERO interest in serious discussion on this board.
Your occasional lapses of what you call "serious discussion" are simply a form of good cop/bad cop.
It is a ruse intended to hide the Narcisstic ramblings, trollings and shite stirrings that are the overwhelming majority of the body of works you produce.
The de-evolving of threads into semantic bullshite isn't the bug for AggieHank, it's the feature.
You are a cartoon and a liar.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:59 pm to Powerman
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It's obviously something that really is more for special occasions and not every day attire for these people
But it’s not just that. It’s also a presentation of a part of their personality.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:00 pm to oogabooga68
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It is a ruse intended to hide the Narcisstic ramblings, trollings and shite stirrings that are the overwhelming majority of the body of works you produce.
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:02 pm to the808bass
GroomerHank definitely didn’t have a strong male presence in his life growing up. If his dad was there, he was probably a limp-wristed pussy who got walked all over
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:13 pm to moneyg
quote:According to the accepted definition of the term "sexual grooming," the hypothetical scenario you describe IS NOT "sexual grooming." Plain and simple. Not just in my world, but in the REAL world. Yet you refuse to utilize that accepted terminology, and the reason is clear. The literature ALSO provides an accepted term (desensitization) for EXACTLY the behavior which you CLAIM concerns you, but that terminology is not as "scary" and thus gives you less bang for your rhetorical buck. Hence, you ignore it, or demean accurate terminology as "mere semantics."
Now, in your world, you'd say that's not sexual grooming
quote:If the drag performer is actually discussing or enacting sexual themes with prepubescent children at Drag Story Hour, I certainly agree that such behavior would be inappropriate. The problem with your analogy is that this does not seem to be occurring at the library-type events I have been discussing. It DOES seem to be occurring at the "Lick It" type events (still inappropriate), but I have not been discussing THOSE events.
Do (I) agree that (your described desensitizing) behavior is wrong ...?
You keep dragging the conversation back to the Oak Lawn "Lick It" events, because you are probably bright enough to understand that there is no rhetorical gain for you in the library.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:15 pm to NC_Tigah
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In trying to decipher some confusion here, it appears you misinterpret the Definition of Grooming. You say "ACTUAL 'grooming' is a first-person activity, by which a specific predator cultivates a relationship with a specific potential victim, with the aim of obtaining sexual gratification from that potential victim.."
Your presumption seems to be the groomer must have the intent to personally assault the victim. That is not a necessary element. Ghislaine Maxwell was a groomer. Her goal was preparation of underage victims for Jeff Epstein's sexual gratification.
More importantly, he's saying that because of that narrow definition Maxwell wasn't wrong. He's using that definition to excuse the behavior of these drag queens.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:17 pm to squid_hunt
quote:My friend, if you consider this sort of thing to be "full sexualized regalia," you have one Hell of a weird fetish.
They're just ... spending inordinate amounts of time ... in full sexualized regalia.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:21 pm to oogabooga68
quote:To me, "trolling" is just fricking with people and not caring in the slightest about the topic.
Mighty fancy way of saying "troll".
When I get into one of these long threads, it is precisely BECAUSE I find the topic interesting. It is the OPPOSITE of trolling.
Do I also frick with you a bit in the process? Sure.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:21 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Suffice it to say, adults set those trends. Suffice it to say, the Drag Queens being referenced are adults.
Suffice to say that it is "trendy," and kids like to be "trendy."
Right?
Rapid-onset gender dysphoria (ROGD) is the condition accounting for much of the observed teen transgender increase. Normalized transsexualism (NTS) supports and enables ROGD. No one is saying NTS/DragDemos are a sole cause of ROGD. But your assertion that NTS is non-contributory is ill-informed.
ROGD is a novel condition. It emerges from cohort and contagion effects along with social pressures (Not dissimilar to mental mechanisms driving behavior responsible for the Salem Witch trials or other mass psychoses). From this perspective, ROSD likely exhibits an etiology and epidemiology that is distinct from the "classical" cases of gender dysphoria documented in the DSM.
The most prominent hypothesis holds ROGD as a maladaptive coping mechanism for other underlying mental health issues such as trauma or social maladjustment. Playing into ROGD vis-a-vis NTS rather than rooting out underlying cause does nothing to help the patient.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:21 pm to AggieHank86
Which one are you?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:22 pm to oogabooga68
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I was once friends with a Drag-Queen
Why are you befriending freaks?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:22 pm to Powerman
quote:EXACTLY.
Guy that used to be a manager at a restaurant where I worked in college also did drag shows. But he didn't dress up like that for work. It's obviously something that really is more for special occasions and not every day attire for these people
Drag performers wear their elaborate costumes when they are PERFORMING. They see something like this Story Hour as a type of performance.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:23 pm to moneyg
quote:The issue is not the definition. The issue is his misinterpretation of the definition.
More importantly, he's saying that because of that narrow definition
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:24 pm to moneyg
quote:You drafted a hypothetical scenario in which you cast me in the role of a homosexual groomer. Of course I altered the hypo.
I offered a specific hypothetical in an attempt to allow you to clearly express your opinion on the topic without the chains of language and "accepted definitions". You've chosen to ignore it.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:25 pm to AggieHank86
Are there any drag kings?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:26 pm to AggieHank86
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Seriously, people, have you ever attended a Drag Show? It is basically burlesque, with folks wearing the "wrong" clothes." Is anyone actually SURPRISED that flamboyant
Speaking as a gay man you are wrong. Drag queens take this shite seriously. If you were to walk in a drag dressing room and spout the nonsense you just said you wouldn't leave in one piece.
The fact is IF this were really about just reading to kids then they wouldn't dress up. This is 100% about demanding that everyone accepts them and that this becomes normal in society.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:27 pm to Chad504boy
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why can't drags just read to drags?
Because they have already gotten with "the program"....thus, we gotta recruits mo!!!
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:27 pm to OysterPoBoy
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there any drag kings?
Actually yes there are. You would find them at a lesbian bar
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