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re: If Drag Queens intentions are pure, why don't they simply wear their everyday clothes

Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:55 pm to
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Yeah. The red flags are all there.


He let something slip in one of his usual self-aggrandising responses to his BS: He mentioned an over-bearing Mother that "beat" certain conditioned behavior into him as a child.

Would probably guess at some point he was forced to wear girls' clothes and wet the bed a lot .
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:57 pm to
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Hank. Your semantics games don’t save you from your disgusting point of view on sexual exploitation of children.


If you will recall, he once bragged about his lack of empathy (as lamented by family and friends) being a "feature" not a "bug".

Most people wouldn't brag about those closest to them remarking on such a clinical trait.

The more he posts and edits, the more he reveals.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:01 pm to
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I probably didn’t get that usernam exactly right.


Totally understandable, Henry has TONS of alters.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:05 pm to
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a person attempting to normalize sexual contact with children who is not actively trying to accomplish sexual contact is not grooming the child?
According to established definitions, NO. A dog is not a cat, though both are mammals.

You are describing the broader notion of "desensitization."

And (of course) you are also attempting to imply that reading Choo Choo books to kids is "attempting to normalize sexual contact with children," with absolutely no evidence beyond your own delusions.
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Hank. Your semantics games don’t save you from your disgusting point of view on sexual exploitation of children
You are such a dishonest POS.

At no point have I ever advocated anything that any SANE person would consider "sexual exploitation of children." I have simply said that sitting in a LIBRARY and reading innocuous stories while wearing outrageous costumes is NOT "sexual exploitation of children."

Does it qualify as "desensitization?" A decent argument could be made that it IS desensitizing kids to variations from gender norms. And you can certainly argue that such desensitization is not a good thing.

But you do make that good faith argument. Instead, you insist upon intentionally misusing words and hurling baseless accusations. But you be you.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139034 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:06 pm to
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And (of course) you are also attempting to imply that reading Choo Choo books to kids is "attempting to normalize sexual contact with children," with absolutely no evidence beyond your own delusions.
Once again ... Since 2017, the number of adults who identify as transgender has remained steady. The number of teens ages 13 to 17 nearly doubled! You think that doubled rate is happenstance?
Posted by bootycricket1
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2011
1292 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:10 pm to
Just like strippers these clowns do this crap to get a response. Strippers make old nasty men horny to spend more money. This asshats do it to create sexual thoughts in children. The real enemy’s are these nasty motherfrickers.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:11 pm to
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Since 2017, the number of adults who identify as transgender has remained steady. The number of teens ages 13 to 17 nearly doubled! You think that doubled rate is happenstance?
I think that correlation is not causation and that the psychological literature confirms that drag and transgender and not closely-related to one another, at all.

But I thought that this thread as about drag performers wanting to diddle kids. Is it NOW about drag performers (who are generally not transgender) wanting to turn cisgender kids into transgender kids.

The moving goalposts are dizzying.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157973 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:12 pm to
You’ve argued all day about people being wrong about drag normalization attempts in public libraries and schools.

Why?

Why is this an important issue to you?

Don’t say it’s not. Your posting is the truth.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:13 pm to
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You think that doubled rate is happenstance?


The Groomers and Commies have tried to explain that away as "now they feel more comfortable identifying as trains".
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:16 pm to
I do not defend things I do not agree with. Do you?



Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157973 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:22 pm to
I do not.

There may be a drag queen in his life.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63088 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:23 pm to
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And (of course) you are also attempting to imply that reading Choo Choo books to kids is "attempting to normalize sexual contact with children,"


No, I’m implying that doing anything with children dressed in drag is an attempt to promote drag. It has nothing to do with reading a book. It is wildly inappropriate for children. And we know the intent is to promote that lifestyle.

You narrowly define grooming and then, on that basis, conclude that it’s ok. It’s not. It’s sexual in nature. And it’s disgusting. And you’ve aligned yourself with that lifestyle.

This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139034 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:23 pm to
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The moving goalposts are dizzying.
Perhaps you should stop spinning?
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But I thought that this thread as about drag performers wanting to diddle kids
Grooming doesn't entail "diddling". It entails preparation for diddling, and increasing likelihood of acceptance when it occurs.
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I think that correlation is not causation
So doubling the number of transgender teens in just 5 yrs is happenstance?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:23 pm to
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You’ve argued all day about people being wrong about drag normalization attempts in public libraries and schools.
No, I have argued that it is not "sexual grooming" by the drag performers, with ACTUAL "grooming" certainly being a "bad thing." I have also acknowledged that this sort of event probably DOES have a desensitizing effect regarding non-standard gender norms and behaviors (which I don't necessarily see as a "bad thing").

Unlike some, you are quite bright enough to understand the difference.
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Why is this an important issue to you?
I would say "interesting" rather than "important."

When something interests me, I can be like a terrier with a bone, and I find it entertaining to debate issues that I find inherently interesting, especially when the issue is much more complex than the "other side" would like to believe. So there is definitely a "just for fun" element to this debate for me.

Also, I am probably an educator at heart. I know that I am not convincing any of the close-minded posters on this thread (several of whom are just trolling anyway, with Ooga leading that camp), but I suppose that I do hope that a reader or two might be learning something useful ... maybe shining a light on a different thought process or making a small crack in the occasional closed mind.

Does that answer your question?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:24 pm to
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There may be a drag queen in his life.
Some of these people are just drooling imbeciles. YOU are better than this.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63088 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:26 pm to
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I do not defend things I do not agree with. Do you?


No rational person does.

However the left frequently defend things they won’t admit to agreeing with…and think that truth is defined in the admitting vs. the agreeing.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28178 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:26 pm to
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Excluding children from a strip club is more a matter of "morals" than physical protection, so it is a much closer call. I would probably exercise that coercive authority there, also.


Also you
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Parental rights, Mikey. You respect them, or you do not. It is their call, not yours.


And also you
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A libertarian &/or small-government advocate will almost NEVER seek to impose his moral views upon those who do not share them.

Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:27 pm to
Boy, Hank is really going to bat for the creepy guys in dresses who are obsessed with exposing themselves to children. What's the deal?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157973 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:29 pm to
Well, I didn’t mean it as an insult.

Don’t take everything so negatively.

If you had a drag queen in your life in some capacity spending much of the day in this thread would make more sense.

Agreed?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157973 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:31 pm to
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Does that answer your question?


Yes.

But much more succinct would have been, “Because I’m Hank”.
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