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re: I think I’ve finally found the 2020 Election Fraud

Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:58 pm to
So one guy with severe TDS cited what a bunch of other guys with TDS told him, and typed it in a pleading?

Boy, this seems BIG


This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 11:00 pm
Posted by Drizzt
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:19 pm to
I wore my thumb out downvoting all your lameass posts
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:21 pm to
You come across as a pussy. The kind with a dark shroud surrounding you.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:25 pm to
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This is it, right?


Nope.
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:27 pm to
Are these U.S. Govt documents?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:35 pm to
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You just said you wanted to kill Trump.


False I don't want actual violence I want him held accountable for attempting to subvert an election. This is nothing more extreme than regularly voiced opinions on Biden/Harris/Obama here.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:38 pm to
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I’m not sure what is worse.

Actually being SFP? Or being a SFP sidekick?


why not both? So sad those two
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:42 pm to
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Kamala wants limits on free speech enacted (government able to decide what's truth and who gets to utter it)

Yeah I strongly disagree with limits on free speech. That has nothing to do with this Convo though on election fraud. Now that there's actual evidence and proof of someone trying to subvert the election amongst elected officials and it's well but it would be better for the country for all these other reasons?

What if Kamala and walz pull the same stunt this year and execute will we just say fair games? I'd hope not..... There's gotta be a line where we have to say this is not ok regardless of affiliations


Posted by LSUSkip
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:45 pm to
Read half of it. I've read fan fiction that is more believable.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:45 pm to
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The only president in years who actually promoted peace and wasn't war-mongering. Yes, what an awful human being. You're a weak man.

This is simply what aboutism.... Trump has a great record on war for sure. But that doesn't change him running a plot to use illegal electors. He's capable of both it seems....
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:45 pm to
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Which candidate is the bigger "threat to democracy"?



Don't get trapped in the leftist "democracy" frame. Step out of it and into the freedom frame .

The leftists are all ate up with their 'democracy' obsession and it's become central to their propaganda.

They are ignoring that the founders were fixated on freedom and NOT democracy.

You can't find the word democracy in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:55 pm to
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But what if the will of the people included the dead (fact), married women also voting in their maiden name (fact), felons voting (fact) college kids also voting from their parents residence (fact), faked registrations (fact), postal workers throwing ballots away (fact), ballots run twice (fact), people voting in a swing states while residing across the border in NJ, NY (fact)?

So some of that voter fraud has been prosecuted which is a good thing. The texts here aren't about how to make the election right based on legal challenges they clearly outline lying and generating confusion..using elected officials to prevent Biden despite the election results. Why would we worry any less about this than those cases? Shouldn't we worry more because of how directly impactful a method this is in comparison?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:58 pm to
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But what if the will of the people included the dead (fact), married women also voting in their maiden name (fact), felons voting (fact) college kids also voting from their parents residence (fact), faked registrations (fact), postal workers throwing ballots away (fact), ballots run twice (fact), people voting in a swing states while residing across the border in NJ, NY (fact)?



None of that is the will of the people.

Those are all examples of the will of the people being subverted.

As I sad earlier, a patriot would fight against this.
Posted by cadillacattack
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:01 am to

Posted by BuzzSaw 12
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:03 am to
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:05 am to
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But that doesn't change him running a plot to use illegal electors.
But are they really illegal?

There's a whole discussion on this in other threads. Only in some states is there a law requiring electors to perfectly follow the popular vote (in that state only)

Where's the line between subversion and challenging? Are contesting hanging chads subversion or a challenge?

Did he try to stop certification or delay certification? Is one contesting and the other subversion? (there constitution does speak to this, and neither delay or halt is allowed by the way).

Is there a process at which congress can overturn an election? yes indeed there is. So is it illegal or unconstitutional to seek this redress?

Is it illegal to contact or attempt to sway those electors? depends on the state and their laws. The federal code does not address this because states select their own electors by their own process.

Again, what is an illegal elector? depends on the state.
And did he use them? no damages were incurred because no elector was challenged by Pence nor removed by their state. He said he was going to steal the car. Was hanging around in the parking lot. But did not even enter the car much less start it or drive off... is that Grand Theft Auto?

It's the same as impeachment #2. He talked like he was going to demand a quid pro quo... but never did. So he thought the quid pro quo into existence?


This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 12:08 am
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:09 am to
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using elected officials to prevent Biden despite the election results.

If the votes are illegal, then you have to prevent Biden

Otherwise we are simply a communist nation, where our leaders are selected for us. Like Biden was. And now Kamala. Not one state voted for her to be the nominee. They are just providing an illusion of choice thru elections. because they dont want to die in a civil uprising
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:14 am to
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If the votes are illegal, then you have to prevent Biden


I'll make a slight modification.

If one sincerely believes the votes are illegal, then one is compelled to prevent Biden.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:15 am to
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Only in some states is there a law requiring electors to perfectly follow the popular vote (in that state only)

So definitely illegal in some state?

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Where's the line between subversion and challenging? Are contesting hanging chads subversion or a challenge?

Challenging happens via the court system. There's clearly established election precedent your citing right there actually. It was ruled on and we moved on. Gore didn't then try to get a second set of electors in Florida to show up and dispute the outcome. That's the difference.

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Did he try to stop certification or delay certification? Is one contesting and the other subversion? (there constitution does speak to this, and neither delay or halt is allowed by the way).

Based on those docs he shot for a delay with hopes of getting arguments to overturn.

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Again, what is an illegal elector? depends on the state.
And did he use them? no damages were incurred because no elector was challenged by Pence nor removed by their state. He said he was going to steal the car. Was hanging around in the parking lot. But did not even enter the car much less start it or drive off... is that Grand Theft Auto?

Let me put it a different way. Him and a group of friends were outside the house, they talked about breaking in, determined best route of entry and had a plan, they went up to the window they planned and found it locked preventing their plan. Is that not conspiracy to commit a crime?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:18 am to
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If the votes are illegal, then you have to prevent Biden


We're all the votes illegal? Based on the counts of the cases you cited what was the effect to the election?

Shouldn't that have been a challenge in court?
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