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re: I read a bunch of COVID-19 scientific articles today
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:29 am to Turbeauxdog
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:29 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:So that would be in response to recent tariff exemptions? So that’d be good for US farmers. See this article
Vessels were fixed last week to bring ethanol from us to China
LINK https://www.manitobacooperator.ca/news-opinion/news/iowas-anger-over-ethanol-gives-democrats-opening/
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:35 am to Eli Goldfinger
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It’s not deadly to most folks, but extremely dangerous to kids and the elderly.
It is mainly proving dangerous to the elderly and not kids.
There have been 0 reported deaths in patients aged 0-9.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:37 am to reo45
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The conservative Political Board trusts Iran and China.
Wut
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:46 am to Bard
Wash your hands, wipe your arse, flush your toilet cover up when you sneeze, throw away the kleenex and drink orange juice.
I'm reducing it to minimal, but doctors are basically saying if we just do these things we are cutting our risk.
I'm reducing it to minimal, but doctors are basically saying if we just do these things we are cutting our risk.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:58 am to Bard
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One big difference at this point is that we have a flu shot (which has limited impact) but no COVID-19 shot.
Actually, the biggest difference is exposure. The flu is everywhere. Corona is not. If I mapped corona to the globe, that death total would sky rocket.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:00 am to HurricaneTiger
quote:total, yes.
If I mapped corona to the globe, that death total would sky rocket.
Percentage? Not so sure.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:05 am to Displaced
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Percentage? Not so sure.
Well, yes. China is our only real statistical point, and we simply don’t know how much China is fudging the numbers. For all we know, China could be overestimating. Unlikely, but it’s fricking China.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:07 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Here are the main takeaways
You are more likely to get the flu than you are coronavirus.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:25 am to WeeWee
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You are more likely to get the flu than you are coronavirus.
Yes. In the US, now. Probably more likely to coronavirus vs. the flu in Wuhan right now. Let's hope it stays that way here and gets to be that way in Wuhan - I have friends there and I hope they can leave their apartment one day.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:25 am to Bard
Couple of things.
Exposure is not infected
Think about how much of the entire population of the planet is in China {~25%} and surrounding counties
The SF “emergency” is possibly political. The president makes a statement and they do something to suggest the opposite. Not saying it is necessarily, but nothing has happened in the Bay Area in the past 2 days to escalate to emergency status now vs a week ago.
Wash your hands, don’t rub your eyes/face with a dirty hand
Exposure is not infected
Think about how much of the entire population of the planet is in China {~25%} and surrounding counties
The SF “emergency” is possibly political. The president makes a statement and they do something to suggest the opposite. Not saying it is necessarily, but nothing has happened in the Bay Area in the past 2 days to escalate to emergency status now vs a week ago.
Wash your hands, don’t rub your eyes/face with a dirty hand
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:29 am to Eli Goldfinger
I heard that the USA, flu-related deaths in 2017 was 80,000; that was the record. Imagine the effect of a more contagious (mild symptoms, more transmission), with no vaccine. A lot of people take the Flu Shot; I do, can't afford not to work.
Also, China produces NINTETY SEVEN % of our antibiotics; a ton of flu induced, pneumonia is fought with antibiotics. I don't know how long it takes for antibiotic production mechanisms to get up and running here in our Nation...but they had better be on it.
Further, all people being treated for cancer with chemo (weakens immune system; antibiotics commonly prescribed along with Chemo therapy) are going to be highly vulnerable.
Aids...weakened immune system? People with transplants taking rejection drugs? Any and all patients who are dependent on antibiotics to tip the survival scale?
Sounds to me like anybody - young or old - where antibiotics means survival...is at a risk a lot higher than the current numbers reflect. Those Homeless communities in major Urban populations are going to go away. They'll flood the hospitals; ICU and Respirators availability will be in short supply. And who in their right mind is going to a hospital anyway; when a stay there would be a virtual guarantee for CV infection.
Bottom line. Ugly stuff. A ton of folk will succumb to this Virus. The current numbers are no where near what we can expect in the near future.
God have mercy.
Also, China produces NINTETY SEVEN % of our antibiotics; a ton of flu induced, pneumonia is fought with antibiotics. I don't know how long it takes for antibiotic production mechanisms to get up and running here in our Nation...but they had better be on it.
Further, all people being treated for cancer with chemo (weakens immune system; antibiotics commonly prescribed along with Chemo therapy) are going to be highly vulnerable.
Aids...weakened immune system? People with transplants taking rejection drugs? Any and all patients who are dependent on antibiotics to tip the survival scale?
Sounds to me like anybody - young or old - where antibiotics means survival...is at a risk a lot higher than the current numbers reflect. Those Homeless communities in major Urban populations are going to go away. They'll flood the hospitals; ICU and Respirators availability will be in short supply. And who in their right mind is going to a hospital anyway; when a stay there would be a virtual guarantee for CV infection.
Bottom line. Ugly stuff. A ton of folk will succumb to this Virus. The current numbers are no where near what we can expect in the near future.
God have mercy.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:30 am to KiwiHead
quote:Just as during flu season.
doctors are basically saying if we just do these things we are cutting our risk.
One of the early breakthroughs here will be availability of on-site testing. It will enable effective identification of infected patients..
It is nearly production-ready, and can detect COVID-19 via nasal or oral swabs. The design was rushed to 3 dozen diagnostic manufacturers to enter into production earlier this week. But in the meantime, a prototype reagent problem was discovered. So now that has to get sorted out before manufacture and distribution can occur.
Vaccine won't be available until Sept, and might take until 2021 to deploy. Nonetheless, that would represent a very quick (record) development period. This outbreak will likely have peaked and passed by June/July.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 8:39 am
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:32 am to NorCali
Cali should be more concerned with the outbreak of bubonic plaque amongst its homelss population than coronavirus.
However, the coronavirus and the homeless situation on the West Coast is a disaster just waiting to happen.
However, the coronavirus and the homeless situation on the West Coast is a disaster just waiting to happen.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:38 am to WeeWee
13,000,000 influenza cases... haven’t heard it called a pandemic by the cdc
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:39 am to reo45
Lol what a hyperbolic post with no evidence to back any of it up except some deleted twitter posts, shocking
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:52 am to Possumslayer
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13,000,000 influenza cases... haven’t heard it called a pandemic by the cdc
A pandemic (from Greek p?? pan "all" and d?µ?? demos "people") is an epidemic of disease that has spread across a large region; for instance multiple continents, or worldwide. A widespread endemic disease that is stable in terms of how many people are getting sick from it is not a pandemic. Further, flu pandemics generally exclude recurrences of seasonal flu. Throughout history, there have been a number of pandemics, such as smallpox and tuberculosis. One of the most devastating pandemics was the Black Death, which killed an estimated 75 - 200 million people in the 14th century. Some recent pandemics include: HIV, Spanish flu, the 2009 flu pandemic and H1N1 .
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:40 am to HurricaneTiger
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Actually, the biggest difference is exposure. The flu is everywhere. Corona is not. If I mapped corona to the globe, that death total would sky rocket.
Another difference I just stumbled across is that the flu estimates are the results of the combined flu strains and that's what is being compared to COVID-19's solo results. A bit of apples versus helicopters.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:49 am to Displaced
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It is mainly proving dangerous to the elderly and not kids. There have been 0 reported deaths in patients aged 0-9.
Thanks for this, DP. I started to ask for stats on the kids...but bailed. A ray of light in an otherwise dark scenario.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:52 am to Eli Goldfinger
Do any of the articles give advice to Democrats WRT how to hype the danger and blame Trump for the problem? Because they really need COVID-19 to wreck shite if they are to have a chance to beat Trump in Nov.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:54 am to Eli Goldfinger
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It is believed that 40% of the world’s population will be exposed to Covid-19 within the next year.
This doesn't pass the smell test.
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