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I read a bunch of COVID-19 scientific articles today
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:30 pm
Here are the main takeaways:
It is difficult to stop because the symptoms usually aren’t debilitating. The infected typically just feel a little “under the weather”, so they don’t self-quarantine.
Almost 20% of carriers have no symptoms, yet they are contagious.
It will continue to spread and is likely to become a common late winter “bug” with pockets of outbreaks worldwide.
It is believed that 40% of the world’s population will be exposed to Covid-19 within the next year.
Despite reports to the contrary, a vaccine hasn’t been developed. The closest thing to a vaccine at the moment is from a small pharm firm which has only copied part of the disease’s RNA which “could” prove useful in creating a vaccine.
Only CA, NE, and IL currently have the ability to test.
While not as deadly, Covid-19 is very closely related to SARS, so researchers are hoping shelved SARS research can be used to combat coronavirus.
It appears to be deadly in folks whose immune systems overreact for unknown reasons.
It is difficult to stop because the symptoms usually aren’t debilitating. The infected typically just feel a little “under the weather”, so they don’t self-quarantine.
Almost 20% of carriers have no symptoms, yet they are contagious.
It will continue to spread and is likely to become a common late winter “bug” with pockets of outbreaks worldwide.
It is believed that 40% of the world’s population will be exposed to Covid-19 within the next year.
Despite reports to the contrary, a vaccine hasn’t been developed. The closest thing to a vaccine at the moment is from a small pharm firm which has only copied part of the disease’s RNA which “could” prove useful in creating a vaccine.
Only CA, NE, and IL currently have the ability to test.
While not as deadly, Covid-19 is very closely related to SARS, so researchers are hoping shelved SARS research can be used to combat coronavirus.
It appears to be deadly in folks whose immune systems overreact for unknown reasons.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 10:38 pm
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:33 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Yeah, scary stuff
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:33 pm to Eli Goldfinger
40% of the world's population? 
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:33 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Thanks. That’s actually good info. However, what or where is “NB”?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:35 pm to beachdude
guessing ny.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:40 pm to beachdude
Let's go with Nebraska. I know a lot of foreigners go there. The 3 states have a large number of migrants in those states.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:40 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I was thinking that US officials getting worried right now was a bit overblown but then a few hours ago the city of San Francisco declared a State of Emergency ahead of this and that made me think of the risk the homeless, opiod-addicted populations in San Fran, LA and Seattle cause.
Here you have populations of THOUSANDS with shite for immune systems, who are in close proximity to one another, who always feel "a little under the weather" and who share lots of things (clothes, furniture, needles, etc). The areas where they are thickest (read: areas where people are paid to clean human feces off the sidewalks) have the potential to be a worst-case scenario for COVID-19.
If we have major problems from this virus, those groups will be where the worst of it comes from.
Here you have populations of THOUSANDS with shite for immune systems, who are in close proximity to one another, who always feel "a little under the weather" and who share lots of things (clothes, furniture, needles, etc). The areas where they are thickest (read: areas where people are paid to clean human feces off the sidewalks) have the potential to be a worst-case scenario for COVID-19.
If we have major problems from this virus, those groups will be where the worst of it comes from.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:41 pm to Eli Goldfinger
From abstract from recent study:
Persistence of coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces and their inactivation with biocidal agents
Persistence of coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces and their inactivation with biocidal agents
quote:From LINK https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463/
Currently, the emergence of a novel human coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, has become a global health concern causing severe respiratory tract infections in humans. Human-to-human transmissions have been described with incubation times between 2-10 days, facilitating its spread via droplets, contaminated hands or surfaces.
. . . The analysis of 22 studies reveals that human coronaviruses such as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) coronavirus, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) coronavirus or endemic human coronaviruses (HCoV) can persist on inanimate surfaces like metal, glass or plastic for up to 9 days, but can be efficiently inactivated by surface disinfection procedures with 62–71% ethanol, 0.5% hydrogen peroxide or 0.1% sodium hypochlorite within 1 minute.
. . . .
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:42 pm to Eli Goldfinger
And 2,700 have died from it compared to the 14,000 that have died from the flu?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:43 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
It is believed that 40% of the world’s population will be exposed to Covid-19 within the next year.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:43 pm to 9th life
Nebraska
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:47 pm to Bard
quote:
was thinking that US officials getting worried right now was a bit overblown
You were right.
Because...
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but then a few hours ago the city of San Francisco declared a State of Emergency
^^ this happened despite the fact there are no cases in San Fransisco. This is pure hype. It's become political. And as such, I think this should also be considered criminal.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:48 pm to pwejr88
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And 2,700 have died from it compared to the 14,000 that have died from the flu?
But you see...you’re grouping all influenza strains (and probably some stomach bugs) into 1 and comparing them to a single strain of coronavirus.
It’s not deadly to most folks, but extremely dangerous to the elderly.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:49 pm to TigerCruise
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40% of the world's population?
Exposed != infected
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:49 pm to TigerCruise
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40% of the world's population?
At least.
And yes, this is a SARS type. The Chinese lied about the original SARS too. WHO came back years later for a full study of it and found it had lethality of 14-15%. Lethality for those over 65 years old was 55%. Another SARS was MERS. Lethality was one in three infected.
This is not muh flu/cold. Better convince the grandparents to stay away from people for a few months or you're gonna lose at least one of them to it.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:52 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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It appears to be deadly in folks whose immune systems overreact for unknown reasons.
Like Lupus which is an overactive immune system?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:54 pm to pwejr88
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And 2,700 have died from it compared to the 14,000 that have died from the flu?
12k have died from the flu from October 1, 2019 through February 20, 2020. That's ~84 people per day (143 days).
I believe the first reported cases of COVID-19 were on 1/20/20 and to date there have been 2,760 deaths. That's ~76 deaths per day (36 days).
One big difference at this point is that we have a flu shot (which has limited impact) but no COVID-19 shot.
Doing the same things you do to avoid the flu should help tremendously (use anti-bacterials, sneeze into your elbow, etc).
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:56 pm to cajuncarguy
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Like Lupus which is an overactive immune system?
Not exactly.
Lupus is an immune reaction sans a pathogen.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:13 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Exposed != infected
I have seen zero evidence that this will be that widespread. China is a meat plant and their exposed rate is less than 1% of the population.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:20 pm to TigerCruise
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China is a meat plant and their exposed rate is less than 1% of the population.
So you believe the numbers China is putting out. Do you also believe that China is so concerned about the death of a couple thousand people that they put almost 800 million people on lockdown and killed HALF their industrial capacity over them? Because that's what they've done in response to this. Remember the last time they did that? No you don't because it's never happened.
Remember, they started shutting down millions of people back in mid January. You seriously believe that they spotted this thing that had only been wild since December and shite their pants so hard they cause everyone on the planet to collective shite theirs a month later in sympathy over a new strain of the cold or flu that's no biggy?
You are naive. Or just easily mislead. Either way, get prepared to lock down. You'll eat it all eventually if it doesn't happen and if it does, you'll be pretty glad you did.
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