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re: I Don’t Understand Trump’s End-Game with the Recent Military Pardons

Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:40 pm to
Whose alter are you?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105449 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:42 pm to
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The Rules of Engagement under Obama were weak and risked US lives



Thank you


Posted by charles_p_bacon
Member since Aug 2012
56 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:45 pm to
...investor business daily?
And i never said I spoke for all mil- just offering generalizations counter to all the other generalizations on here
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21916 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:47 pm to
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...investor business daily?


What other source would you like? Were you ignorant of Obama’s purge?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27205 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:49 pm to
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...investor business daily?
And i never said I spoke for all mil- just offering generalizations counter to all the other generalizations on here



Why don’t you have the balls to do this with your main account? Why the alter?
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
4832 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:52 pm to
See but that’s not what happened. The SecNav publicly said one thing and was doing something different in private. I spent many years in the Navy and I have talked to lots of my old shipmates about this and they all agree there is a military chain of command and if you are given an order you follow it. These assholes tried to subvert a lawful order and should be shite canned over it.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:24 pm to
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Still waiting.


Still waiting for what??
I don't arrive at conclusions based on other peoples "feelings" or "evaluations"

What is the evidence?

I'll wait.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124190 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:45 pm to
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Can we get it on record that you don’t think what Gallagher was accused of doing by his peers was bad?
Have you seen the verdict?
NOT GUILTY!

Now then.
Can we get it on record that you don’t think what the Gallagher prosecution was accused of doing is bad?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21916 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:48 pm to
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Can we get it on record that you don’t think what the Gallagher prosecution was accused of doing is bad?


Nah, he was trolling. He doesn’t believe half the stuff he says.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:56 pm to
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Navytiger74?


That’s who my money is on...


Thats about fricking right, they both have that arrogant fricking ignorance that's hard to come by naturally.

Does huevos have a thing for little girls?
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11087 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:24 am to
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Does huevos have a thing for little girls?

No, Navy peeps love seamen
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52920 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:31 am to
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Basically every military officer I know


I'm sure you also believe that the military is completely devoid of politics and politicians.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:41 am to
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I guarantee almost everyone on this message board who praises the pardons either didn’t serve, or was enlisted and never commanded troops at any level.


I served from 02'-06' in the Army and went to Iraq in 03'....im as proud as ever in my President and CIC. The military system of justice convicted those guys (Lt Lorrance) under some bogus PC ROE put in place by our previous president. My soldiers always knew where i stood when it came to them protecting themselves in a foreign country in combat. God bless our President!!!

This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 7:43 am
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50216 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:50 am to
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50216 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:50 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124190 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:52 am to
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Buckeye Backer
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27205 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:56 am to
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I guarantee almost everyone on this message board who praises the pardons either didn’t serve, or was enlisted and never commanded troops at any level.


Based on this, I am certain that Huevos is NavyTiger, which explains its limited view since it resides and "commands" from a cubicle somewhere supposedly... Also is chicken shite with the alter...

I served 23 years, multiple deployments, multiple commands at several levels... What a bunch of pencil pushing REMF motherfrickers attempted to do to Gallagher should scare the shite out of every single living person in this country and I am damn glad he was found not guilty on the worst crimes he was accused of AND given a pardon on the bullshite "crime" he was convicted of...

I am also glad the civilian leader of the Navy was forced to resign because he refused and order from the CINC and I sincerely hope that the leadership that attempted this railroad is pushed out with the quickness...

There is no fricking room for this bullshite when we ask warriors, like Gallagher, to go and prosecute wars with dumb arse ROE that focus more on getting OUR folks killed than on killing the enemy...
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37710 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:03 am to
Trump basically listened and backed off initially.....all he is saying is don't pull his Trident. That is THE decision of the commander in chief so??????
Posted by Huevos
Cypress
Member since Jun 2013
417 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:32 am to
Actually no. That’s an administrative action separate from a criminal conviction. The Navy should be allowed to administratively address the fact this guy acted dishonorably and violated the SEAL code of conduct. The Army does tab revocations for situations just like this.

If DJT wants to pardon him from criminal culpability, he can. I don’t agree with it, but I respect his decision as CIC. Just like I didn’t think Obama’s pardon of Manning was the right choice.

So what are we left with? Evidence that a Navy SEAL acted dishonorably. Whether or not the CIC reversed that on paper. The Navy should be expected to remove the guy’s Trident and separate him administratively just as they would any sailor who did the same combat record.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21916 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:29 am to
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So what are we left with? Evidence that a Navy SEAL acted dishonorably. Whether or not the CIC reversed that on paper. The Navy should be expected to remove the guy’s Trident and separate him administratively just as they would any sailor who did the same combat record.


Just like they’re going to do to every other team member who posed for that picture.

Right?
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