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I Don’t Understand Trump’s End-Game with the Recent Military Pardons
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:03 pm
Those who think this was a good decision are the types who are going to vote for DJT no matter what he does. On the other half, the NeverTrumpers definitely won’t be swayed by this decision.
What he’s done is begin to alienate moderates and independents who were inclined to vote for him, but won’t now.
Basically every military officer I know disagrees with his decision to subvert the military justice process. Case in point is SECNAVY committing career suicide by refusing to implement the pardon. You think that decision was made on a whim? No; there were several Admirals who agreed with his decision to refuse the order, and supported him.
The fact the civilian leader of the entire Navy quit over it should be all you need to know. SECDEF himself, a former Army Officer, tried to convince DJT to let the military handle these cases 2 weeks ago.
Make no mistake, this decision is not nearly as popular in the military as Trump or his most loyal followers insist.
I guarantee almost everyone on this message board who praises the pardons either didn’t serve, or was enlisted and never commanded troops at any level.
What he’s done is begin to alienate moderates and independents who were inclined to vote for him, but won’t now.
Basically every military officer I know disagrees with his decision to subvert the military justice process. Case in point is SECNAVY committing career suicide by refusing to implement the pardon. You think that decision was made on a whim? No; there were several Admirals who agreed with his decision to refuse the order, and supported him.
The fact the civilian leader of the entire Navy quit over it should be all you need to know. SECDEF himself, a former Army Officer, tried to convince DJT to let the military handle these cases 2 weeks ago.
Make no mistake, this decision is not nearly as popular in the military as Trump or his most loyal followers insist.
I guarantee almost everyone on this message board who praises the pardons either didn’t serve, or was enlisted and never commanded troops at any level.
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:05 pm to Huevos
It is so cool when TDS kicks in and people use their old Alters. 
#sobrave
#sobrave
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:06 pm to Huevos
The President can't subvert something that he is commander of.
If he goes to Ukraine and starts pardoning people, I'll hang up and listen.
If he goes to Ukraine and starts pardoning people, I'll hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:06 pm to Huevos
Dude I will flat out tell anybody who was against this pardon to their face that they can DIAF.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:07 pm to Huevos
99% of Americans aren’t even following this story you bloviating moron
The idea that this issue would alter someone’s voting decision is insane
Honestly, you should be EMBARRASSED to start this thread
And why must you lie about your “discussions with military officers”?
You haven’t talked to ANY military officer about this issue
The idea that this issue would alter someone’s voting decision is insane
Honestly, you should be EMBARRASSED to start this thread
And why must you lie about your “discussions with military officers”?
You haven’t talked to ANY military officer about this issue
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:08 pm to Huevos
quote:
everyone on this message board who praises the pardons either didn’t serve, or was enlisted
And there you go.
quote:
NeverTrumpers definitely won’t be swayed by this decision.
They won’t be swayed by anything. frick them. No one cares about them.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:08 pm to DarthRebel
Nice deflection. Do you agree with the pardons? If so, why?
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:08 pm to Huevos
quote:
Basically every military officer I know disagrees with his decision
Funny. Every one I know applaud the POTUS
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:08 pm to DarthRebel
quote:
It is so cool when TDS kicks in and people use their old Alters.
Hahaha, no shite. fricking losers and their damn alters.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:10 pm to Huevos
quote:
What he’s done is begin to alienate moderates and independents who were inclined to vote for him, but won’t now.
Don't see this at all.
I just don't think the Pentagon is all that thrilled with DJT.
I also think those outside the walls of the Pentagon like Trump a lot more than those inside.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:10 pm to Huevos
quote:
Nice deflection. Do you agree with the pardons? If so, why?
Ask the same question with your real username and we will talk.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:11 pm to Huevos
The military justice process is being subverted? Oh. Eight years of Obama era PC military leadership needs some subverting by the President
Are you as eager to defend military officers subverting orders from their superior? Because that is what these clowns are doing when they decide they can’t follow a direct order from the CAC
If some major or lieutenant did the same thing to them, the offending officer would get a close up look at military justice. Guaranteed
Are you as eager to defend military officers subverting orders from their superior? Because that is what these clowns are doing when they decide they can’t follow a direct order from the CAC
If some major or lieutenant did the same thing to them, the offending officer would get a close up look at military justice. Guaranteed
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:12 pm to Huevos
quote:
What he’s done is begin to alienate moderates and independents who were inclined to vote for him, but won’t now.
Can you provide a link to prove this statement so we can check for ourselves?
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:13 pm to Huevos
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or was enlisted and never commanded troops at any level.
What would be a sufficient amount of troops to commander in your eyes?
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:13 pm to Huevos
Alter pussy ! 
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:15 pm to Huevos
quote:
Nice deflection. Do you agree with the pardons? If so, why?
Not directed to me but I’ll answer anyway.
Yes I agree with the pardons for a number of reasons.
First, the president is the commander in chief and is empowered by the Constitution to pardon anyone he damn well wants.
Second, the military justice system is a command driven structure that has largely succumbed to agenda driven purposes as of late.
There are many other reasons but I don’t have the time or desire to enlighten your dumb ignorant arse. So just frick off.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:16 pm to Huevos
quote:So defend obummer pardons.
Those who think this was a good decision are the types who are going to vote for DJT no matter what he does.
A deserting cross dresser or something. There are more.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:17 pm to Huevos
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Make no mistake, this decision is not nearly as popular in the military as Trump or his most loyal followers insist.
Not surprising given what I've seen out of our military lately.
This makes me very sad.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:19 pm to Huevos
quote:411 posts.
Huevos
Post less and GTFO.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:22 pm to Huevos
Maybe he just thought it was the right thing to do...
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