re: I don’t know whether the election was stolen, as many of y’all say

I do get it. That’s why I said I don’t expect them to do anything but maybe continue to just hammer the opposition. And by that I mean demogogue the race issue.

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The trust needs to be fixed.

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It won’t be it has been damaged beyond repair

The most truthful thing Trump ever said over the last 6ish years was that the MSM is the enemy of the people. Unless there’s a seismic shift in the way things operate with them I will consider them this country’s greatest threat until the day I die

If election results are not transparent and auditable, if ballots do not have clear chain of custody and lack things like signatures, dates, and postmarks to establish identity of voters and validity, then how do we know who was elected?

If a scientist develops a hypothesis, then an experiment to observe it which supports the hypothesis, but cannot repeat the results of that experiment, then is there any real support for that hypothesis? No.

If an election is not verifiable, then it is not an accurate measurement of voter intent. The mere opportunity for hypothetical bad actors to tilt elections makes the method unreliable. Elections CANNOT be unreliable.

The entire purpose of elections is that they provide a framework for peaceful transition of power where the losing side understands that they lost and can accept the result. If the legitimacy of those results are in doubt, truly peaceful transition of power cannot occur as the losing side will feel cheated rather than defeated. This destabilizes democratic societies, leading to sectarian violence and despotism as the justified basis for conceding elections is eroded.

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First, I have a very hard time believing there are 81 million Americans dumb or bent enough to have voted for the pedo. Second, everything is fake from these frickers. Name the issue or action the last couple of years that hasn't been utter bullshite. From Russia collusion to the Covid shitshow ... from unarmed blacks are being murdered by cops at volume to violent white supremacists behind every tree ... every fricking thing is made up bullshite. So, I think to myself - what are the chances the election is the one thing the Left is being honest about?

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Preach brother! I have been saying this for a while…these leftist frick nuggets did every far fetched thing under the sun to get rid of Trump but were supposed to have played “above board” in the one area where they could pragmatically get rid of him? Suuuuuuure….

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if ballots do not have clear chain of custody and lack things like signatures, dates, and postmarks to establish identity of voters and validity, then how do we know who was elected?

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A pre-employment pee sample has better safeguards than ballots do.

Both have been trending redder in the last 12 years. Ohio has been reliably more red than PA but difference is generally about 3% bluer in PA. What I find unbelievable is the turnout... Obama had a similar turnout and ended up winning Ohio twice. I guess my question is why did Detroit and Philadelphia care so much this time but Cleveland didn't because that certainly wasn't the case in 2008 and 2012

Somebody tired of idiots

Just in case, that is you

BTW you are really an idiot… start a topic about elections and say this

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I simply haven’t dug into the election fraud stuff.

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On some level it doesn’t matter who is right about that. The trust needs to be fixed.

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You’re going to have to accept that it is beyond repair at this point. Those in charge now will make no concessions and will cede nothing.

The appearance of fraud is just as detrimental as actual fraud.

You should probably work on your critical thinking skills.