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I don’t know whether the election was stolen, as many of y’all say
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:20 pm
But I do know you really believe it, and Trump wasn’t necessary for the belief to flourish. Trump was just another receiver of the same (online really) information all of y’all got. He didn’t create theories or narratives. That was all done by the people.
And now, whether they are right or wrong, a lot of people sincerely believe the federal elections are phony.
That’s a huge problem. Guns and abortion are non issues compared to that.
And Trump is not the issue. He could come
Out tomorrow and say the election was not stolen, he was wrong etc, and it wouldn’t make a difference. Everybody who thinks the election was stolen would insist he show proof.
I don’t expect Democrats to do it, but I will tell everybody I know that I feel it’s important for them to concede territory on mail in voting and ballot harvesting, as well as voter ID laws. If they don’t, our country could be in trouble.
And now, whether they are right or wrong, a lot of people sincerely believe the federal elections are phony.
That’s a huge problem. Guns and abortion are non issues compared to that.
And Trump is not the issue. He could come
Out tomorrow and say the election was not stolen, he was wrong etc, and it wouldn’t make a difference. Everybody who thinks the election was stolen would insist he show proof.
I don’t expect Democrats to do it, but I will tell everybody I know that I feel it’s important for them to concede territory on mail in voting and ballot harvesting, as well as voter ID laws. If they don’t, our country could be in trouble.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:24 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:There's no way in a thousand hells that 81 million Americans voted for Joe Biden.
I don’t know whether the election was stolen
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:25 pm to baybeefeetz
They shut down only the 6 swing States with Trump with a big lead, and told everyone to go home, but then certain people stayed counting and at 3-4 am a huge spike of votes, and then the votes kept coming in till they all swung to Biden. We all watched the steal, c’mon….
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:26 pm to baybeefeetz
Didn’t read and downvoted
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:26 pm to baybeefeetz
Everything is phony. We’re just fish in a barrel dude. It’s not a matter of when things got phony either. It’s just that technology has advanced enough that it’s been proven.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:29 pm to CamdenTiger
God damnit. The point is not whether or not it was stolen.
The point is that the trust is gone, and I think the left bears a lot of responsibility for helping restore it. And we can all agree they will not.
The point is that the trust is gone, and I think the left bears a lot of responsibility for helping restore it. And we can all agree they will not.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:32 pm to baybeefeetz
I had developed a strong suspicion of more or less the same allegations that ended up being the center of the action before Trump said a word about it on election night and immediately after.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:34 pm to davyjones
Right. Most people heard about “Ruby” etc before Trump did.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:34 pm to baybeefeetz
Ballot harvesting is illegal everywhere in the US.
Mail-in voting was done contrary to the laws in several states.
Ballots in excess of the difference in margin of victory are in question.
No court will even look at the information.
The people in office benefitting from these elections are fighting tooth and nail any effort to audit them.
People who were let into the building by police on January 6th are rotting in jails on misdemeanor charges.
Trump is not the problem, people that do not recognize these issues are the problem. You and your people are not going to convince leftists to concede anything.
Mail-in voting was done contrary to the laws in several states.
Ballots in excess of the difference in margin of victory are in question.
No court will even look at the information.
The people in office benefitting from these elections are fighting tooth and nail any effort to audit them.
People who were let into the building by police on January 6th are rotting in jails on misdemeanor charges.
Trump is not the problem, people that do not recognize these issues are the problem. You and your people are not going to convince leftists to concede anything.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:34 pm to dualed
quote:
Everything is phony
I'm not a big "election was stolen" guy, but there are two things that make me think it may have been. First, I have a very hard time believing there are 81 million Americans dumb or bent enough to have voted for the pedo. Second, everything is fake from these frickers. Name the issue or action the last couple of years that hasn't been utter bullshite. From Russia collusion to the Covid shitshow ... from unarmed blacks are being murdered by cops at volume to violent white supremacists behind every tree ... every fricking thing is made up bullshite. So, I think to myself - what are the chances the election is the one thing the Left is being honest about?
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:35 pm to HorseShoeHenry
That’s why I’m very concerned. What can best be expected is that they will hammer and hammer until the opposition is destroyed.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:37 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
I don’t know whether the election was stolen
If the election wasn't stolen, that means 81 million people actually voted out one of the best presidents in our nation's history...for Joe Biden.
Surely you see how that is a far, far, FAR worse scenario to contemplate.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:39 pm to imjustafatkid
Biden fricking sucks and I did not vote for him. People were very worked up about getting rid of Trump. Idk how many but many.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:40 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
People were very worked up about getting rid of Trump.
And if that is truly what got Joe Biden elected, then our country is screwed. That proves that we have a population that can be completely and totally controlled by the fake news media.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:40 pm to baybeefeetz
They have been doing that and here you are trying to convince them of something... They made their decision. What is their decision? That your opinion does not matter, shut up, sit down, or accept the consequences. And you're "trying to help"... smh
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:41 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:
population that can be completely and totally controlled by the fake news media.
Again, idk how many can, but many, many can.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:43 pm to HorseShoeHenry
I am talking about speaking to regular people I know. I’m not talking about the powers that be in DC. I don’t have the facts to go “stop the steal” on them, but I think Incsn make a persuasive case for change without those facts.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:Agree. The absolute refusal to investigate the obvious problems cements suspicion.
Trump wasn’t necessary for the belief to flourish
I've said all along officials could easily squash all the stolen election mumblings with some open, honest, investigation and admission of the obvious problems. Tied to changes to prevent them next time.
It's almost like democrats want the narrative, because htey can use it as a wedge issue.
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