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re: I don’t know whether the election was stolen, as many of y’all say
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm to baybeefeetz
Left and right is a parlor game to keep us at each other’s throat. If you think there’s a real difference between Pelosi and McConnell you’re mistaken. Expansion of government is our enemy, no matter what face it wears.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm to baybeefeetz
Lol@ OP thinking Biden actually won
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:47 pm to imjustafatkid
Savage interviewed one of Trumps sons just before the election. On it, he claimed the Dems weren’t spending any money on normal campaign line items (adverts, travel, etc.). Instead he shared they spent their money on something like a couple hundred lawyers. That to me is a pretty big tip of the hat that shady shite was going to happen and they were focused on slowing/stopping any legal challenges.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:48 pm to baybeefeetz
Based on mail-in voting and voter id? You really are over your head if you even think that them agreeing with you on it would matter, at all.
Do you believe the climate is being damaged beyond recognition due to an excess of a gas that plants use to breathe? Any evidence of that?
The decision has been made by the people in DC who are clearly working with people beyond our borders. They have stated this openly, it is not a conspiracy theory.
Look at what they've already done. Tell me what they wouldn't do to make their power-grab come true?
Do you believe the climate is being damaged beyond recognition due to an excess of a gas that plants use to breathe? Any evidence of that?
The decision has been made by the people in DC who are clearly working with people beyond our borders. They have stated this openly, it is not a conspiracy theory.
Look at what they've already done. Tell me what they wouldn't do to make their power-grab come true?
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:49 pm to baybeefeetz
It goes beyond trusting the elections. We also don’t trust the justice department, fbi, media or cia. We don’t have faith that our government is actually working for us Americans.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:49 pm to Bwmdx
Yeah, that is a part of it for sure. The trust is gone.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:50 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
our country could
Be in trouble.
Ya think?
I don't know how many elections you've lived through, but I've seen many. This one didn't pass the smell test on election night (swing states ALL stopped counting AT THE SAME TIME, Arizona called WAY too early while Florida, with Trump in a big lead, wasn't called for hours, the papering of windows to exclude monitoring...I could go on, really), but afterward it became absolutely undeniable as evidence, yes evidence baybeefeetz, was revealed. And then there was the media blackout which had to be orchestrated to be of a single voice that "Donald Trump claims 'without evidence' that the election was stolen." There is overwhelming evidence. It's been reviewed countless times elsewhere, but it's there if you want to know it. The truth is, you'll never find a Biden voter that cares if it was stolen let alone will they take the time to see it. They are perfectly fine being blissfully ignorant.
But to your larger, and well-taken, point, this Country is very much in trouble. I was a straight laced "good boy" all my life, as a student, in the various jobs I had, played sports pretty well...the ordinary Gen X'er, went to undergrad and law school here in Oklahoma. Since 2008 and the "slobbering love affair" the mainstream had with Barry Seotoro, my faith in all of this, my assumptions, so many things I took for granted, have crumbled. My head spins some days. The Courts (in which I work regularly), the mighty US Military, the Police, Congress, the "FBI" in particular, are every bit as corrupted as the "conspiracy theorists" I used to mock said they were.
I'll always have some doubt of the results of an election, particularly a federal one. I'd hazard that Joseph Robinette Biden legitimately got 40 million votes AT MOST. The fabled democrat election fraudsters went into high gear that night in 2020 on a national level, maybe for the first time, but probably not. I hadn't, like you, seen then what I've seen now.
I've watched as Trump himself knew it was stolen, but I don't believe he knows the half of it. I have my own two eyes and a lifetime of hits and misses, slings and arrows, to inform my opinion along with a trove of direct and circumstantial evidence.
The courts, like Bill Barr, weren't going to touch that powderkeg. Justice Roberts knew, after that George Floyd summer, the republic would be torn apart. Sorry John, but it already has been.
More to your point, I'm not by any stretch alone. And if a substantial portion of the governed electorate feel, know as I do, then we are indeed in the tall weeds.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:55 pm to GeronimoBernstein
Good post. I simply haven’t dug into the election fraud stuff. That’s why I don’t reach the conclusions so many who shite in me here reach. I’m not arguing with them about that.
I’m acknowledging their anger, actually, and their (your) sincerity. I’m not questioning their intelligence. I am just not knowledgeable because my focus has been elsewhere.
On some level it doesn’t matter who is right about that. The trust needs to be fixed.
I’m acknowledging their anger, actually, and their (your) sincerity. I’m not questioning their intelligence. I am just not knowledgeable because my focus has been elsewhere.
On some level it doesn’t matter who is right about that. The trust needs to be fixed.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:59 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
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I simply haven’t dug into the election fraud stuff.
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On some level it doesn’t matter who is right about that. The trust needs to be fixed.
Doesn't matter if the election was stolen, we just need to trust again... lol
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:00 pm to baybeefeetz
Go read about it yourself or shut the frick up. If you gave two fricks you would have an informed opinion after 18 months. Get your shite together.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:00 pm to HorseShoeHenry
I mean do you need me to spoon feed every bit of my logic to you? Are you that hard headed?
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:02 pm to baybeefeetz
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On some level it doesn’t matter who is right about that. The trust needs to be fixed.
It won't be. Democrats are going out of their way to sow distrust. They want the chaos and disquiet they've brought to the country.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:02 pm to lsuguy84
I’ll go watch 2000 mules. How about that?
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:02 pm to baybeefeetz
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the left bears a lot of responsibility for helping restore it.
Don't you get it? They don't care if it was stolen. To them, the ends always justify the means.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:03 pm to HorseShoeHenry
It wasn’t the fake news media, hell Trump got 12 million more votes than in 2016, just unheard of, and the people saw through the media… but then they cheated to get Biden an even more unheard of number of votes. It was a Stolen election, it’s there in the numbers……
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:04 pm to David_DJS
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I think to myself - what are the chances the election is the one thing the Left is being honest about?
This is the way everyone should look at it.
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