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re: I don’t know whether the election was stolen, as many of y’all say

Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70791 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm to
Left and right is a parlor game to keep us at each other’s throat. If you think there’s a real difference between Pelosi and McConnell you’re mistaken. Expansion of government is our enemy, no matter what face it wears.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97026 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm to
Lol@ OP thinking Biden actually won
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8440 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:44 pm to
Dude… just shut up
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32840 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:45 pm to
Who the frick are you?
Posted by GatorH8r
Member since Aug 2019
334 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:47 pm to
Savage interviewed one of Trumps sons just before the election. On it, he claimed the Dems weren’t spending any money on normal campaign line items (adverts, travel, etc.). Instead he shared they spent their money on something like a couple hundred lawyers. That to me is a pretty big tip of the hat that shady shite was going to happen and they were focused on slowing/stopping any legal challenges.
Posted by HorseShoeHenry
Member since Jul 2021
307 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:48 pm to
Based on mail-in voting and voter id? You really are over your head if you even think that them agreeing with you on it would matter, at all.

Do you believe the climate is being damaged beyond recognition due to an excess of a gas that plants use to breathe? Any evidence of that?

The decision has been made by the people in DC who are clearly working with people beyond our borders. They have stated this openly, it is not a conspiracy theory.

Look at what they've already done. Tell me what they wouldn't do to make their power-grab come true?

Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3437 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:49 pm to
It goes beyond trusting the elections. We also don’t trust the justice department, fbi, media or cia. We don’t have faith that our government is actually working for us Americans.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32840 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:49 pm to
Yeah, that is a part of it for sure. The trust is gone.
Posted by GeronimoBernstein
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2016
384 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

our country could
Be in trouble.


Ya think?

I don't know how many elections you've lived through, but I've seen many. This one didn't pass the smell test on election night (swing states ALL stopped counting AT THE SAME TIME, Arizona called WAY too early while Florida, with Trump in a big lead, wasn't called for hours, the papering of windows to exclude monitoring...I could go on, really), but afterward it became absolutely undeniable as evidence, yes evidence baybeefeetz, was revealed. And then there was the media blackout which had to be orchestrated to be of a single voice that "Donald Trump claims 'without evidence' that the election was stolen." There is overwhelming evidence. It's been reviewed countless times elsewhere, but it's there if you want to know it. The truth is, you'll never find a Biden voter that cares if it was stolen let alone will they take the time to see it. They are perfectly fine being blissfully ignorant.

But to your larger, and well-taken, point, this Country is very much in trouble. I was a straight laced "good boy" all my life, as a student, in the various jobs I had, played sports pretty well...the ordinary Gen X'er, went to undergrad and law school here in Oklahoma. Since 2008 and the "slobbering love affair" the mainstream had with Barry Seotoro, my faith in all of this, my assumptions, so many things I took for granted, have crumbled. My head spins some days. The Courts (in which I work regularly), the mighty US Military, the Police, Congress, the "FBI" in particular, are every bit as corrupted as the "conspiracy theorists" I used to mock said they were.

I'll always have some doubt of the results of an election, particularly a federal one. I'd hazard that Joseph Robinette Biden legitimately got 40 million votes AT MOST. The fabled democrat election fraudsters went into high gear that night in 2020 on a national level, maybe for the first time, but probably not. I hadn't, like you, seen then what I've seen now.

I've watched as Trump himself knew it was stolen, but I don't believe he knows the half of it. I have my own two eyes and a lifetime of hits and misses, slings and arrows, to inform my opinion along with a trove of direct and circumstantial evidence.

The courts, like Bill Barr, weren't going to touch that powderkeg. Justice Roberts knew, after that George Floyd summer, the republic would be torn apart. Sorry John, but it already has been.

More to your point, I'm not by any stretch alone. And if a substantial portion of the governed electorate feel, know as I do, then we are indeed in the tall weeds.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
7033 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:52 pm to
Bless your heart…
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32840 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:55 pm to
Good post. I simply haven’t dug into the election fraud stuff. That’s why I don’t reach the conclusions so many who shite in me here reach. I’m not arguing with them about that.

I’m acknowledging their anger, actually, and their (your) sincerity. I’m not questioning their intelligence. I am just not knowledgeable because my focus has been elsewhere.

On some level it doesn’t matter who is right about that. The trust needs to be fixed.
Posted by HorseShoeHenry
Member since Jul 2021
307 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:59 pm to
quote:


...

I simply haven’t dug into the election fraud stuff.

...

On some level it doesn’t matter who is right about that. The trust needs to be fixed.




Doesn't matter if the election was stolen, we just need to trust again... lol
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27401 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:00 pm to
Go read about it yourself or shut the frick up. If you gave two fricks you would have an informed opinion after 18 months. Get your shite together.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32840 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:00 pm to
I mean do you need me to spoon feed every bit of my logic to you? Are you that hard headed?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

On some level it doesn’t matter who is right about that. The trust needs to be fixed.

It won't be. Democrats are going out of their way to sow distrust. They want the chaos and disquiet they've brought to the country.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32840 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:02 pm to
I’ll go watch 2000 mules. How about that?
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55872 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

the left bears a lot of responsibility for helping restore it.

Don't you get it? They don't care if it was stolen. To them, the ends always justify the means.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65808 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:03 pm to
It wasn’t the fake news media, hell Trump got 12 million more votes than in 2016, just unheard of, and the people saw through the media… but then they cheated to get Biden an even more unheard of number of votes. It was a Stolen election, it’s there in the numbers……
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55872 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

I think to myself - what are the chances the election is the one thing the Left is being honest about?

This is the way everyone should look at it.
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