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re: I don’t know whether the election was stolen, as many of y’all say
Posted on 6/12/22 at 12:53 am to baybeefeetz
Posted on 6/12/22 at 12:53 am to baybeefeetz
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And now, whether they are right or wrong, a lot of people sincerely believe the federal elections are phony. That’s a huge problem.
This is why we needed a full and exhaustive investigation, not stymying. If it is proven, prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. If it isn’t, STFU and deal with the fact that a subpar candidate won.
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Posted on 6/12/22 at 1:08 am to touchdownjeebus
It’s impossible to prove anything when a corrupt DOJ won’t even see evidence based on standing.
Talk about tell me you’re guilty without telling me you’re guilty.
Not only did they steal the election. They’re now telling the American populous from which the election was stolen that they don’t have the standing to question the result.
Beyond the pale commie bullshite right here in the good old us of a.
We have the only right, frickwads.
Talk about tell me you’re guilty without telling me you’re guilty.
Not only did they steal the election. They’re now telling the American populous from which the election was stolen that they don’t have the standing to question the result.
Beyond the pale commie bullshite right here in the good old us of a.
We have the only right, frickwads.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 1:17 am to David_DJS
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So, I think to myself - what are the chances the election is the one thing the Left is being honest about?
The mere claim that it was the most secure election in history is absolutely absurd. Just on it’s face it wasn’t with all the mail in votes. Nobody actually believes that, but they push it anyway. It’s a tell. They also said audits are a threat to democracy. Also absurd
Posted on 6/12/22 at 4:10 am to baybeefeetz
Posted on 6/12/22 at 4:25 am to baybeefeetz
quote:100%
And now, whether they are right or wrong, a lot of people sincerely believe the federal elections are phony.
That’s a huge problem. Guns and abortion are non issues compared to that....
I don’t expect Democrats to do it, but I will tell everybody I know that I feel it’s important for them to concede territory on mail in voting and ballot harvesting, as well as voter ID laws. If they don’t, our country could be in trouble.
I don't know how this got 74 DVs.
If one believes the election was on the up-and-up (I don't), then Dems made an Atomic Mistake in resisting, obstructing, and lying about attempts to investigate it.
The irony in this is a Democracy can survive fraudulent elections as long as the public does not perceive them as fraudulent. Conversely, a Democracy cannot survive if the public perceives its elections to be corrupted, even if the elections were honestly wrought in reality.
Given the Communist bent of an increasing number on the left, we need to ALL be aware that Democracy is anathema to Communism. Communism cannot coexist with societal freedoms. Societal freedoms will always survive to some extent in an electoral democracy. Undermining the concept of free and fair elections is key to ridding their impediment to communism.
The OP's observations are spot on.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 4:40 am to NC_Tigah
Are you sure democracy can survive fraudulent elections? Seems to me that the very existence of democracy is nullified if its elections are fraudulent, regardless of how the public perceives it.
This post was edited on 6/12/22 at 4:41 am
Posted on 6/12/22 at 4:42 am to dualed
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Everything is phony
/thread.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 6:18 am to baybeefeetz
Riddle me this. Why was it reported that there was a water main break at State Farm Arena in Atlanta when it was just a leaky toilet. Having nothing to do with the actual process of counting, yet the entire building was evacuated & counting brought to a hault? .
Don’t be afraid to see what you see.
Don’t be afraid to see what you see.
This post was edited on 6/12/22 at 6:47 am
Posted on 6/12/22 at 6:35 am to HorseShoeHenry
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No court will even look at the information.
This tells you all you need to know. You can sue anyone in the country and the courts will entertain it. The fact that the left spent millions of dollars fighting audits is the issue. Why did they do that?
Posted on 6/12/22 at 6:42 am to baybeefeetz
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I don’t expect Democrats to do it, but I will tell everybody I know that I feel it’s important for them to concede territory on mail in voting and ballot harvesting, as well as voter ID laws. If they don’t, our country could be in trouble.
Democrat’s would never do what you suggest.
There is a logical reason they would refuse...
Posted on 6/12/22 at 6:47 am to baybeefeetz
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don’t expect Democrats to do it, but I will tell everybody I know that I feel it’s important for them to concede territory on mail in voting and ballot harvesting, as well as voter ID laws. If they don’t, our country could be in trouble.
You obviously didn't watch 2000 mules
Or any of Arizona's audit investigation
They have big problems...the Republicans who run Arizona belief they had massive failures in 2020.
Tell me how Fox knew and called Joe wins AZ with 1% in election night?
Posted on 6/12/22 at 6:48 am to CamdenTiger
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They shut down only the 6 swing States with Trump with a big lead, and told everyone to go home, but then certain people stayed counting and at 3-4 am a huge spike of votes, and then the votes kept coming in till they all swung to Biden. We all watched the steal, c’mon….
Exactly this
Posted on 6/12/22 at 6:48 am to RTRinTampa
Teachers unions refuse to give up power to parents, so does government refuse to be held accountable for election fraud.
For the exact same reason.
Why give up power you don't have to?
For the exact same reason.
Why give up power you don't have to?
Posted on 6/12/22 at 6:56 am to baybeefeetz
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I don’t know whether the election was stolen, as many of y’all say
Wrong question.
Are you confident the election was not stolen? If you’re not then there is a huge problem.
Me? I think it was stolen, not necessarily but “wide spread” cheating but very focused cheating.
It only took a few tens of thousands of votes to swing it to Biden in places where there is typically 95% democrat voters in PA, AZ, GA, MI. There was ballot stuffing in certain precincts which was just enough to flip those states to Biden and secure the EC for him. Then they really, really stuffed ballots in places like CA and NY to swamp the popular vote so everyone would ignore that the election was stolen on a few 10s of thousands of votes.
When you look at the underlying pre-election data and the election results it is clear There was cheating.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 6:57 am to baybeefeetz
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don’t expect Democrats to do it, but I will tell everybody I know that I feel it’s important for them to concede territory on mail in voting and ballot harvesting, as well as voter ID laws.
You sir, are obviously a racist homophobe.
Why do you insist on bring a white nationalist?
And further you are obviously a violent insurrectionist.
Those beliefs you just started are not in agreement with group think and frankly they trigger me.
I'm going to report these sentiments because it is impact and not intent that is important. And these statements made me feel unsafe in my own country.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 7:05 am to HorseShoeHenry
And the D nomination was openly rigged.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 7:24 am to baybeefeetz
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I don’t know whether the election was stolen
Ignore everything else you’ve heard as partisan nonsense if you’d like, but I invite you to go look at just how many historical norms were broken in Joe’s win. Report back if you think it was likely that all those norms were bucked at the same time when every election before this one didn’t average breaking even one of those norms (mathematical average).
If you fancy yourself a person that relies on logic, intuition, reasoning and the inevitability of human nature, there is no way you can come away thinking that 2020 was a “natural” election with zero fraud taking place. You would have to believe that a person holding a winning powerball ticket gets struck by lightning while being bitten by a great white shark every few years too. You don’t need some crack team of IT people and detectives or even a calculator.
This post was edited on 6/12/22 at 7:26 am
Posted on 6/12/22 at 7:33 am to baybeefeetz
Democrats have been trying to steal elections since 1992. They’ve become much more sophisticated.
In 2000, they were using metal rods to run through ballots in Broward and Palm Beach. In 2004, they were buying homeless people’s votes in Milwaukee. 2012 was much more sophisticated and targeted.
And the media droned on about our safe and secure elections. That apparently emboldened our colleagues on the Left to where they were comfortable fricking over a Presidential election in multiple high profile precincts and hoping no one would do anything.
They were right.
In 2000, they were using metal rods to run through ballots in Broward and Palm Beach. In 2004, they were buying homeless people’s votes in Milwaukee. 2012 was much more sophisticated and targeted.
And the media droned on about our safe and secure elections. That apparently emboldened our colleagues on the Left to where they were comfortable fricking over a Presidential election in multiple high profile precincts and hoping no one would do anything.
They were right.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 7:43 am to baybeefeetz
quote:this and OP sound like two different posts.
The point is not whether or not it was stolen. The point is that the trust is gone, and I think the left bears a lot of responsibility for helping restore it. And we can all agree they will not.
This might be the reason you get so much hell on this board.
You don’t even know what you’re saying.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 8:24 am to baybeefeetz
Very surprised you were downvoted so much for that very reasonable OP. I’m with you; I don’t know if the Dems cheated enough to swing the election, but they were definitely cheating more than usual due to the relaxation in rules supposedly due to the pandemic.
As to those who say, “No way 81 million voted for Biden”, the Dems have won the popular vote in every Presidential election, except one, since 1992. I’ll concede that 81 million didn’t vote for Biden, but I’d be willing to bet more Americans voted against Trump than for him.
As to those who say, “No way 81 million voted for Biden”, the Dems have won the popular vote in every Presidential election, except one, since 1992. I’ll concede that 81 million didn’t vote for Biden, but I’d be willing to bet more Americans voted against Trump than for him.
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