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re: I don’t know what to think. Crooks acted alone vs Didnt
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:43 am to AuburnTigers
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:43 am to AuburnTigers
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Simple explanations for the simple minded
I mean, it’s TBoy.
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:43 am to TBoy
quote:Simple explanations are the correct one most of the times, not always but mostly.
The simple explanation is the most likely.
In this case the simplest explanation as to why the SS let Trump on the stage despite knowing there was extremely suspicious activity is deliberate incompetence.
The simplest additional caveat to that is the people in charge were hoping it was an actual threat that would succeed. Hence the intentional lax precautions taken and refusal to provide requested additional support, then lying about it.
It wasn’t about this specific incident being planned, it’s been about creating the conditions for it to happen, and pumping enough “Trump is Hitler” rhetoric to ensure someone would eventually try.
It would be interesting, VERY interesting to see analysis done on Trump’s previous events just how many holes were in them someone didn’t try.
Edit - btw, if that analysis did show this was the only event with that kind of vulnerability, I’m going to cannonball into the deep end of the conspiracy pool
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 10:46 am
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:43 am to JamalMurry27
I think he was the only one there shooting at Trump and the crowd, but there is no freaking way he wasn't helped, or unwittingly trained by some CIA MKUltra-type program, prior to and at the event. Whether that help was direct or someone or a group of someones turning a blind eye to all open doors that Crooks needed to walk through to get the shot off, I'm not sure which. Could be both.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 10:44 am
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:45 am to TBoy
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When the shooter is a 20 year old who lives at home and has to take his father’s gun that day, he isn’t part of a professional organized conspiracy
It’s that simple huh ?
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:46 am to TBoy
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Sometimes these kind of kids shoot up a school. A couple have shot up churches. This one decided to take shots at Trump. It isn’t any more complicated than that.
Weird he didn’t do that to the current president.
Just goes to show even a fricked up kid knows Biden ain’t shite.
Either way a 20 year old loner kid getting a shot off on Trunmp should concern you.
Anyone with any decent coordination or training could do some serious damage to any politician seeing how poor their security is.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:46 am to TBoy
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When the shooter is a 20 year old who lives at home and has to take his father’s gun that day, he isn’t part of a professional organized conspiracy. The simple explanation is the most likely. He was a loner kid loser who had access to guns, who wanted to become immortal famous. Sometimes these kind of kids shoot up a school. A couple have shot up churches. This one decided to take shots at Trump. It isn’t any more complicated than that.
It’s painfully obvious, but it doesn’t fit the end narrative that many are forcing to be true in their heads. So they continue shoving square pegs in round holes with conspiracy theories.
There is more than enough inept and criminal things to discuss without jumping to conspiracies that are now devaluing real issues. Won’t stop though
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:48 am to tiger789
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do think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone ?
What was the result of Oswald’s attempt vs crooks?
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:49 am to JamalMurry27
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I don’t know what to think.
Exactly what the filth wants.
Of course he DIDNT act alone.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:50 am to lake chuck fan
the piece of evidence against inside job for me and multiple shooters etc...is (in my opinion) if it was deep state or whatever trump wouldn't have left that stage alive first messed up shot or not....thats what holds me back a little. I think I want to think it was some big coo...still could be...I want answers DAMNIT
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:54 am to CDawson
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Exactly what the filth wants. Of course he DIDNT act alone.
You have it backwards, it much behooves the filth for Trump to believe there is a conspiracy to kill him amongst the highest levels of government.
And if he believes they can kill him then he will believe they can kill his family.
And if he believes that then he will drop out.
Which he hasn’t don’t.
This is the clearest evidence yet that there isn’t a conspiracy to kill him.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:55 am to JamalMurry27
As many have prior pointed out, at the LEAST, the sheer number of failures, ex., roof not covered by SS, nor were police on ground guarding said roof, since the SS Director said it was too sloped and a decision was made to not cover it for a falling risk. Really? The other SS snipers were on similar roofs w/ slope. That alone, along with the fact they knew he was there, a person of sig interest, yet was not followed and he appears on roof. Then attendees and a local PD goes up and shooter aims rifle at him. He falls and hurts self, but a call was made on radio, yet, NO ONE pulled Trump or acted as they should had. All while attendees hollering he was there. So, okay, he was just a random 20 year old with mental anguish and all these other issues are just coincidence. SMH
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:57 am to AuburnTigers
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Biden, Obama, Clinton and the cabal tried to assassinate Trump with the help of the CIA, Secret Service, FBI, etc.
For this to be true you have to have at least the snipers or leading field agent for the USSS in on it and maybe local LE to let the kid get his shots off. Also that they would select a 20 yr old neck beard that lives with his parents. Neither of these make sense to me.
It’s a lot easier for me to believe that the Trump detail was incompetent and untrained due to DEI and general govt incompetence due to political appointed leadership. Also, that they refused to give Trump any or or better protection because they hate him.
If there is any conspiracy it’s the FBIs lack of transparency in the shooters background.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 10:59 am
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:58 am to TBoy
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TBoy
yeah sure....the government has never done this before! no psy-ops, no MK ultras, no patsys, etc
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:58 am to JamalMurry27
You can boil all of it down to ask why Trump was allowed to go on stage if it was known/reported that a suspicious person with a gun was nearby or on a roof. That fact can't be ignored.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:00 am to fr33manator
The only thing I cannot square up in my mind is the variation in the sound the shots made. The first three were fairly the same sound and traveled down a similar line. Then the volley of random shots that hit nothing have strike points which have not really been discussed but hurt no one. Everything else points to a sponsored person being given liberties to complete the act
In my mind, he is not the only one they found in the US when that most powerful investment firm went out filming the promos. Then someone started grooming them. This kid had help, his parents knew he was at risk or else they gave their son as a sacrifice. Maybe they were as dumb as Oswald and believed he would be a hero.
In my mind, he is not the only one they found in the US when that most powerful investment firm went out filming the promos. Then someone started grooming them. This kid had help, his parents knew he was at risk or else they gave their son as a sacrifice. Maybe they were as dumb as Oswald and believed he would be a hero.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:01 am to DiamondInTheRough
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since the SS Director said it was too sloped and a decision was made to not cover it for a falling risk.
When she said that, that's when I came off the fence and came down solidly on the side of intent instead of incompetence. That was such a blatant lie that I have to believe they're lying about so much other stuff.
Then the FBI saying he 100% was working alone BEFORE they even got into his phone is another lie that piqued my interest. Like, how are you gonna start releasing information before you can even get into the device that would give you said information?
So much just doesn't add up in the least. Sad thing is: we are not likely to ever get the full truth because the people who could know will just keep on lying.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:02 am to WylieTiger
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You can boil all of it down to ask why Trump was allowed to go on stage if it was known/reported that a suspicious person with a gun was nearby or on a roof. That fact can't be ignored.
yup. or at least ushered off as soon as civilians were reporting him. they had 2 minutes even then.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:05 am to JamalMurry27
All I know is no real organization would involve this kid in any real plot.
People love drama so they make it up.
People love drama so they make it up.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:05 am to TBoy
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The simple explanation is the most likely.
Really? Then why when dozens upon dozens of people are screaming for two minutes and one second that “He’s on the roof and he’s got a gun” did the Secret Service do nothing?
How did the Secret Service not notice him flying his drone at least twice around the perimeter?
Is a four degree sloped roof on a single story building that dangerous for them as members of the Secret Service when I think you can relatively safely leave a toddler up there? Too bad the counter snipers were on a 14 degree roof.
There were three snipers inside the building, which what are they going to snipe inside a building? A fricking fly? How come they didn’t hear him on top of a metallic roof?
Did no one notice him climbing a building?
Why didn’t they stop him an hour in advance when he had a rangefinder aimed at the podium?
I’m sorry, you’re a fricking retard if you think it’s as simple as just a single shooter.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 11:42 am
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:07 am to JamalMurry27
Of course I would like to know exactly what happened. I think all Trump supporters would. I have already concluded everything from the lack of protection to the “incompetence” on the day of the assassination attempt was on purpose. They wanted Trump dead, end of discussion for me. Too many coincidences to think otherwise.
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