re: How many of you will be upset if/when Ukraine thwarts Russia?

I'm not rooting for any country but I think invasions falling is probably better for the world at large

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This board's gone pretty off the rails, dude. I haven't even really changed.

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I always took you for a small government libertarian. Now you seem to be comfortable with government largesse.

I don't like that Russia invaded Ukraine, but I fail to see how that is our problem and why we keep giving them money and weapons.

We have huge systemic issues here that need to be addressed before providing aid to any country.

You have changed, you just can't see it.

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I will be sad/mad if Putin is assassinated I want Putin to rule over a Russia devolving into the standard of living of the Congo

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Because you want him to experience a hit to his ego so much that it is worth risking the use of nukes? Is it worth having him and mother Russia continuing to inject their divisiveness into every area of world politics they can influence?

Look what they did to our own country. It’s going to be tough enough to get it back with Putin still leading the influence. We need to expedite his embalming.

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when do you think this magical period has existed?

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Started after WW2 but really started in earnest after the Soviet Union fell.

The world's standard of living has skyrocket, hundreds of millions have risen out of poverty, and the most peaceful time in human history. Oh and the US has benefited more than any other country.

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, is there ever a legitimate reason to oppose any actions of Russia? North Korea? China? Iran?

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Yes, when they directly threaten us or our direct interest. We are not the world’s police no matter how much you neocons want to control everything. 7,000 US troops died in Iraq and Afghanistan and 10s of 1,000s were maimed because of people like you.

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The need some people have to assign left/right sides to a minor war in Europe is weird as all hell. I don’t care if Ukraine wins, I don’t care if Russia wins. I just don’t want us involved. I suspect well over 50% of this forum, and probably a lot higher % than that, are in general agreement with that.

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But you have to choose a side per say because the U.S. is fighting a proxy war with Russia.

The whole mess could've been avoided had we only had term limits.

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You just don't want to answer

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WTF are you even talking about? Answer what?

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You're the one who cited a thread-discussion that you ran away from

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Well cuz, I don't tend to do that

.... You're engaged in what we call projection, i.e., transposing your own qualities/actions onto others.

Here is your exit from the "thread-discussion" in question:

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I always took you for a small government libertarian.

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I am, but I have always argued against the Big Ls. I'm not an anarchist.

Part of that belief is a big belief in free trade. I don't want government regulating trade much. Within this is a big belief in international trade. This has been the backbone of the world for the past 30 years.

Russia threatens that.

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You have changed, you just can't see it.

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How?

Even when the "globalism" meme developed in 2016 on here, I've always pushed back on it. I have been utterly consistent in my support of open and transparent trade among nations, because removing those barriers (on the international level) falls perfectly in line with my domestic view of the situation.

Again, Rusia threatens that. This is the biggest attack/disruption on this system of international free trade since the fall of the USSR. It's a major deal and not just "a conflict in eastern Europe" as some want to dismiss.