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re: How many of you will be upset if/when Ukraine thwarts Russia?

Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:58 pm to
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That is a weird argument to make


It is the correct argument to make.

You are wrong on that account.

Don’t pull a Hank. Just move on.

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that entirely disappeared due to integration


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:59 pm to
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Ukraine? Who has been given over 2 years worth of the equivalent Russia Military spending in less than a year?

This isn't shocking because a lot of that money is also going towards to replace Ukrainian GDP/economy

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Or Russia by fighting against most of Europe and USA alone?

The EU and US aren't really fighting
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:01 pm to
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They do not have the logistics at the moment to even use that fuel or grain man.


Russia mainland is untouched and full of resources.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:01 pm to
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Step one: we didn't invade a sovereign nation


Are you talking about the United States? Are you fricking serious? Come the frick on SFP, you’re a smart man and know this is bullshite.

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Step two: we didn't invade a nation posing no threat to us


Ummm, again… Iraq?!
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 6:02 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:01 pm to
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Yeah that post was moranic. Compression. Lol


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:01 pm to
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t is the correct argument to make.

You're not even correctly using "Central Europe" in an argument you're trying to respond to about...Central Europe
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:01 pm to
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SlowFlowPro
I NEVER thought of you as a dishonest broker. Chalk that mistake up to my own naivety I guess?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:01 pm to
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Are you talking about the United States? Are you fricking serious? Come the frick of SFP, you’re a smart man and know this is bullshite.

Uh

What sovereign nation did we invade in this conflict?

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Ummm, again… Iraq?!

THIS conflict, OML
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:02 pm to
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The EU and US aren't really fighting


That is entirely not true. Not bodies on the front line, but they are VERY MUCH involved in training, finances, equipment, information, etc.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:03 pm to
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A simple “I was wrong” will be my defense. But when that cold front comes, going to be really crazy bad. It’s why Ukraine was so effective in September because they know this as well.



Lol. Like you would accept the inverse. You would start estrogen posting like you had a estrogen implant in your pre-pubic fat, which would go straight to your dick, butchering and misremembering arguments along the way, all to gloat about issues that, in the end, you will likely misunderstand. My god you are so damn deluded.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:03 pm to
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THIS conflict, OML


But this is the point. We’ve toppled dozens of governments, but while Russia has done it in the past as well, this time it’s worth risking nuclear annihilation? I’m sorry, we’re throwing stones from glass houses here, SFP. You’re a smart guy and you know this, so not letting you off.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:04 pm to
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I NEVER thought of you as a dishonest broker.

I am not

You just don't want to answer

Nothing about this thread is in bad faith or illogical/improper

You're the one who cited a thread-discussion that you ran away from because it didn't conform to the facts you were requiring of the discussion (if you want to talk about dishonest brokers). You were bending over backwards to not dirty Russian intervention in Ukraine leading up to 2014, and you used a talking point as an "argument". When I used the EXACT same scrutiny to your claims about 2014, you scoffed and exited the discussion.

I'm sure you talked about it as me defending the US, too, which was the improper frame for my question entirely.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44307 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:04 pm to
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You're not even correctly using "Central Europe" in an argument you're trying to respond to about...Central Europe


Haha, as if your judgement means anything.

You are wrong.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:06 pm to
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It is the correct argument to make.



How? Are the geographic lines in Europe so static that historical descriptions are superseded by current geographic standards? Again, what about Livonia? It's the same situation.

Describe some discontents that are 'geopolitical' in nature in Central Europe right now. The culture war nonsense is an idiotic example. Give me something tangible.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44307 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:06 pm to
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Nothing about this thread is in bad faith or illogical/improper


Dude, some of your shite is getting to gaucho level.

That’s cool if you’re trolling. If not...

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:06 pm to
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Russia mainland is untouched and full of resources.



And they still have problems getting resources to Ukraine where they also must hold land, you silly goose.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:07 pm to
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Dude, some of your shite is getting to gaucho level.

That’s cool if you’re trolling. If not...


Yeah, SFP, we respect you, but you have to know what you’re saying is bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:07 pm to
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But this is the point. We’ve toppled dozens of governments

It's not relevant unless your argument is whataboutism.

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this time it’s worth risking nuclear annihilation?

Russia hasn't invaded a sovereign nation in this manner in defiance of international law since the cold war.

It's going to cost the world trillions
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44307 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:08 pm to
I laid it out already. No need to rehash.

That being said, you are attempting to tell me what opinion I should have based on my personal experiences. That is really odd.

You do you though.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44307 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 6:09 pm to
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what about Livonia?




Whomever wants it can have it.
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