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re: How man Covid cases were/are just the Flu?

Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:01 pm to
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What don't you understand? Vaccines aren't an Iron Curtain.


Thats not what Joe Biden said.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24741 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:02 pm to
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I wonder how many of the “I didn’t lose my smell or taste” “COVID cases” were actually the flu,


How many people get the flu and have no symptoms? If you have antibodies and a solid immune system, you may not have any symptoms. We don't know the answer to this, because the majority of people with full blown cases of influenza don't get tested, and we certainly don't test asymptomatic people for influenza.

They estimate that 34 million people get the flu every year. That number could be very low, if we have a lot of asymptomatic cases.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
3373 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:02 pm to
Between the level that trips a positive test being in dispute (35? 40? thumb in the air?) and the flu just evaporating from the face of the earth, can anyone really be mad at those that just dont trust what is being said?

The force of gravity is a constant at sea level. Many other easily repeatable examples of science in nature. Yet these egghead doctors cant tell us what pops a test?

So between that and the media and what you see -- well -- its all so tiresome.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:04 pm to
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How many people get the flu and have no symptoms?


I’m 55 and have never been sidelined with the flu; I’m always walking wounded with just a low grade fever and nothing else. That, coupled with how mild my COVID case was, is one reason I’m not taking the jab.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10295 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:05 pm to
So they have a name for the flu now -Covid

They could have saved all this trouble if they would have given China credit for the development of the new strain in the beginning
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:07 pm to
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CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season.


All this is saying is that they recommend labs adopt a test that can differentiate between the flu and covid to save time and resources. If someone tests negative for covid but has flu, or vice versa, they'll have that answer in one test.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6450 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:11 pm to
There is a lot of assumption in there. There is a percentage of cases during the flu season that were probably falsely diagnosed as covid.

Every-time I had to get swabbed for covid, i was separately swabbed for the flu. Was that the normal protocol? If so that percentage is probably lower.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:13 pm to
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All this is saying is that they recommend labs adopt a test that can differentiate between the flu and covid to save time and resources.


So the test they were using could’ve mistaken the flu for Covid?
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
2984 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:14 pm to
My thoughts are with the Reich family. I always respected him. He will be missed. Rest In Peace.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59843 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:14 pm to
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They could have saved all this trouble if they would have given China credit for the development of the new strain in the beginning

But if they'd been willing to do that, then the MSM would've been painted into a corner regarding Hunter's laptop(s), where it's proven that the son of the sitting/former VP was impossibly compromised by the CCP, thanks to his predilection for hookers and blow.

The real question is when did Hunter turn the corner for Chinese escorts/courtesans (a la Mulan actress) to "No yellow."?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:17 pm to
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Every-time I had to get swabbed for covid, i was separately swabbed for the flu. Was that the normal protocol?
Yes, that was normal if the covid-only test was used. The new recommendation is to use the combo tests that check covid and flu to save time/resources. But a lot of idiots are misinterpreting that to mean that the covid-only tests were mistaking flu for covid.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:19 pm to
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Every-time I had to get swabbed for covid, i was separately swabbed for the flu. Was that the normal protocol? Yes, that was normal if the covid-only test was used. The new recommendation is to use the combo tests that check covid and flu to save time/resources. But a lot of idiots are misinterpreting that to mean that the covid-only tests were mistaking flu for covid.


None of the drive thru testing centers I know of were using both
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4106 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:21 pm to
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Flu like symptoms and loss of smell and taste = covid


This has become a big talking point, like so many other talking points.

I lost taste and smell with strep throat 20 years ago. Lasted for a couple of weeks and slowly returned.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:22 pm to
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So the test they were using could’ve mistaken the flu for Covid?
No, the old test couldn't detect flu at all, hence it couldn't differentiate it from covid either. Likewise the old covid-only test couldn't detect herpes, pregnancy, or a severe case of the dumbass. Because it wasn't designed to detect those things.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39452 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:27 pm to
No No NO!!!

We eliminated the flu with masks!!!!!

They just didnt work at all against literally any other illness including COVID19!

We average about 39K flu deaths per year, so you can back that right out of that covid death number for starters. Another poster posted a chart showing 24K suicides and accidents being attributed to covid, so its safe to say we over-counted covid deaths by well over 8%.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:28 pm to
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No, the old test couldn't detect flu at all, hence it couldn't differentiate it from covid either. Likewise the old covid-only test couldn't detect herpes, pregnancy, or a severe case of the dumbass. Because it wasn't designed to detect those things.


So why the need to do so now?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:29 pm to
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None of the drive thru testing centers I know of were using both
Because drive thru centers are meant to be fast and cheap, and doing two tests costs time and money. So they did covid tests at the covid test drive thrus.

Tests are specific to what they test for. Tens of thousands of flu tests are being done weekly, and the vast majority are coming back negative. Do you think they just don't work anymore? Do you think the covid test detects flu better than the flu test detects flu? That's not how they work.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39452 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:29 pm to
Thats wrong. Patients with flu like symptoms were considered "presumed positives" even when testing negative. This happened to several people I know including my wife and son. They weren't taking any chances.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17816 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:30 pm to
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What don't you understand? Vaccines aren't an Iron Curtain. They are a preventative and an anti-viral in the case of infection - just like the flu vaccines.

It's very simple:

He got the vaccine

He got covid

He has no symptoms


See, this is better than "he got covid and has terrible symptoms"


I agree with this. So why test and quarantine someone who is vaccinated?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Thats wrong. Patients with flu like symptoms were considered "presumed positives" even when testing negative. This happened to several people I know including my wife and son. They weren't taking any chances.


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