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re: How is DeSantis Establishment?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:15 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:15 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:So what? They'd line up behind anyone not Trump. Can he help who supports him? While Trump was following Fauci on COVID, DeSantis went his own way. DeSantis is much more a leader than Trump.
Lincoln Project pedo warmongers and Paul Ryan are lining up behind him.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:17 am to GumboPot
quote:
“DeSanctimonious” is Not About the Florida Governor
Oh. I’m glad we have this random obscure website posting by Sundance to explain the intricacies of Trump trying to degradingly nickname Ron the night before an election that Trump isn’t in.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:18 am to GumboPot
People here will eventually figure it out when its to late.
Smarter people have already started to catch on and are letting it be known .
Sebastian Gorka DrG
@SebGorka
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11h
To all those “Republicans” crowing about how it has to be DeSantis, and not President Trump in 2024, just know this:
- Joe Scarborough
- Ben Shapiro
- Chris Christie
- Jonah Goldberg
and every Bushie agrees.
I wonder why ..
Smarter people have already started to catch on and are letting it be known .
Sebastian Gorka DrG
@SebGorka
·
11h
To all those “Republicans” crowing about how it has to be DeSantis, and not President Trump in 2024, just know this:
- Joe Scarborough
- Ben Shapiro
- Chris Christie
- Jonah Goldberg
and every Bushie agrees.
I wonder why ..
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:19 am
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
The fairy tale narratives are funny. Its amazing he cult like behavior on display from anyone who is not loyal to the person of Trump.
Awww did I hurt feelings with responding to the name calling in kind? Y'all are already on your knees outside of your bedroom waiting for Desantis to finish up with your wives. Can't accept that people are keeping an eye on the people surrounding him.
Remember the Trump folks have Desantis as a clear second option. We just have a different strategy approach. Y'all are the ones that are going to take your ball and stay home if Desantis isn't the 1st choice.
Like I said, bunch of fig biatches trying to get a slap fight going with men that just don't care, cause either option works out for us at the end of the day. Keeping pouting Desantis cucks.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:18 am to RollTide1987
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There's an obvious reason for this. While it's true that the establishment hates Trump, they also feel like DeSantis has the better chance to win the general election in 2024.
100%.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:19 am to Y.A. Tittle
Trump is a minor player in the property developer game in Manhattan. There are at least 25 other players there that are much more successful. Trump though became a master at self promotion and branding.
He's an NBC creation, because prior to that he was just another " billionaire" from Manhattan.....and there are a lot of those.
He's an NBC creation, because prior to that he was just another " billionaire" from Manhattan.....and there are a lot of those.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:19 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
Lincoln Project pedo warmongers and Paul Ryan are lining up behind him.
David Duke lined up behind Trump.
I’m sure your response to that is I only care what Donald himself said and did.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:21 am to mule74
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His policies in Florida are 10 out of 10 for what conservatives on this board are calling for.
100% true.
quote:
Their only issue with him is that he isn’t Trump.
No. The issue is he is being purchased by monied interest that have policy positions on borders, trade and war that are antithetical to the populist MAGA movement.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:21 am to DreauxB2015
quote:
Sebastian Gorka DrG @SebGorka · 11h To all those “Republicans” crowing about how it has to be DeSantis, and not President Trump in 2024, just know this: - Joe Scarborough - Ben Shapiro - Chris Christie - Jonah Goldberg and every Bushie agrees. I wonder why ..
For the record.
Joe Scarborough LOVED trump in primary season before the 2016 election.
Morning Joe was appointment viewing for this board.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:25 am to GumboPot
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No. The issue is he is being purchased by monied interest that have policy positions on borders, trade and war that are antithetical to the populist MAGA movement.
So you think his time in Florida is all a ruse, and that he’s going to become POTUS and flip to being a corporate stooge?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:25 am to elposter
quote:
I live in a very liberal area and my democratic friends can’t debate me about what Desantis has done.
The left wanted him criminally charged for the first thing he did that affected outside his state.
You people are incredibly naive if you think he wouldn’t be as hated as Trump on a national level IF he stays true to America first agenda.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:26 am
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
This same logic didn't apply to the KKK or David Duke endorsing Trump in 2016, though.
The KKK and David Duke we're rebuked by Trump, and he didn't take a single penny from them.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:28 am to mule74
quote:
His policies in Florida are 10 out of 10 for what conservatives on this board are calling for. Their only issue with him is that he isn’t Trump.
Stop it. No Trump fan has an issue with Desantis policies because his not Trump. We have different long term strategy approach. Ie...rather try to get 1 term Trump going in 4 yrs to clear out the swamp for Desantis, so he doesn't have to waste time doing it.
There is no issue with also being concerned by seeing the GOPe sniffing around.
It really isn't that hard.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:30 am to KAGTASTIC
Oh you’re playing 5D chess I get it …
Good luck with that.
I’ll vote for Trump, but he’s not winning in 2024.
Good luck with that.
I’ll vote for Trump, but he’s not winning in 2024.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:31 am to mule74
quote:
So you think his time in Florida is all a ruse
No.
GWB's time as governor in Texas was not a ruse either.
Both Ron and GWB for Texas at the time did and are doing great jobs as governors of their states.
quote:
and that he’s going to become POTUS and flip to being a corporate stooge?
Absolutely (in terms of borders, trade and war...DeSantis will be fine on judges, law and order and social issues...Wall Street is agnostic on those issues). Ken Griffin and the rest of those big DeSantis donors that have filled his campaign coffers with more than $200 million dollars this past year want a return on their investment. In fact, they demand it.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:32 am to DreauxB2015
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I wonder why ..
Because Trump is a terrible candidate. If *I* were running they'd back me instead of Trump because they recognize what this board can't seem to figure out - Trump is toxic. White suburban women HATE him, the youth HATE him, social conservatives HATE him, and independent voters HATE him. It took me a while to figure it out too, but it ain't rocket science. Trump has no shot at winning the general election in 2024. The Pennsylvania Senate race should have clued ya'll into that.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:35 am to KiwiHead
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Trump is a minor player in the property developer game in Manhattan. There are at least 25 other players there that are much more successful. Trump though became a master at self promotion and branding.
As much as you may think otherwise, my point was not about trying to prop up Trump outside of the general point that he actually had real world experience and I find it generally comforting in having elected officials to who have at least had some. It’s not even really about being super successful inasmuch it’s just knowing they have been a part of and clearly seen how things work outside of government and the effects government has had on them. The hallmark of “The Establishment” - at least in my mind - is that they don’t have such insight and tend to act accordingly.
That’s not saying there aren’t lifetime government folks who can see such things (and by most accounts, it seems Desantis may be one such), it’s still something of note. It’s okay.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:36 am to KAGTASTIC
quote:
Stop it. No Trump fan has an issue with Desantis policies because his not Trump. We have different long term strategy approach. Ie...rather try to get 1 term Trump going in 4 yrs to clear out the swamp for Desantis, so he doesn't have to waste time doing it.
If Trump wins in 2024, that all but guarantees a D win in 2028.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:39 am to KAGTASTIC
Ah he had to get to term 2 to start all that swamp draining ?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:42 am to Zap Rowsdower
He's not. He just picks his fights better and does not make it as personal as Trump does. He went after Disney because he knew he had Disney by the balls. He fired elections people in Broward and Palm Beach because he had the absolute right and power. He promoted the "Don't Say Gay" bill because he new it was a winner. Managed Covid quite well avoiding violations of constitutional rights and enticed growth during the time.
He did it without looking like an utter fool in the process. He can unite the factions....if you want to win. Or else just set your self up for perpetual victimhood.
He did it without looking like an utter fool in the process. He can unite the factions....if you want to win. Or else just set your self up for perpetual victimhood.
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