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re: How is DeSantis Establishment?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:56 am to Zap Rowsdower
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:56 am to Zap Rowsdower
Look at his policies. Look at his actions. Judge the man by what he has done not by what people label him.
He has blue collar roots from his Italian heritage. Mom was a nurse, dad was a technician installing Nielson rating boxes on tvs.
Guy is smart as shite so he went to Yale undergrad and Harvard law. He was an athlete playing college baseball.
He served in the Navy (JAG) and was deployed to Iraq to serve as legal advisor to SEAL Team 1.
In Congress he was founding member of the Freedom caucus and consistently advocated for conservative policies and values. Check his record. He was an early and consistent supporter of Trump and a vocal critic of the Mueller investigation and other bullshite that the establishment did to Trump.
As Governor he has been a stalwart conservative and basically a political badass in the face of constant criticism from the “establishment” and the left, including ABC/Disney, which would have made less principled and capable men back down and even crumble.
He’s an incredible asset to conservatives. He’s smart, his resume is flawless, there is basically zero baggage, he knows the enemy well and he’s shown he can govern circles around them.
I live in a very liberal area and my democratic friends can’t debate me about what Desantis has done. They have some platitudes of course but you can tell they have zero salient arguments about any negatives on Desantis. The media will try to tear him down but he’s smarter than them and he will expose them the same way Trump did but without alienating a huge part of the electorate. Like it or not you can be “right” all day long but if you alienate too much of the electorate such that you can’t get elected then what the hell good is that?
GOP would be foolish not to ride this guy to victory.
He has blue collar roots from his Italian heritage. Mom was a nurse, dad was a technician installing Nielson rating boxes on tvs.
Guy is smart as shite so he went to Yale undergrad and Harvard law. He was an athlete playing college baseball.
He served in the Navy (JAG) and was deployed to Iraq to serve as legal advisor to SEAL Team 1.
In Congress he was founding member of the Freedom caucus and consistently advocated for conservative policies and values. Check his record. He was an early and consistent supporter of Trump and a vocal critic of the Mueller investigation and other bullshite that the establishment did to Trump.
As Governor he has been a stalwart conservative and basically a political badass in the face of constant criticism from the “establishment” and the left, including ABC/Disney, which would have made less principled and capable men back down and even crumble.
He’s an incredible asset to conservatives. He’s smart, his resume is flawless, there is basically zero baggage, he knows the enemy well and he’s shown he can govern circles around them.
I live in a very liberal area and my democratic friends can’t debate me about what Desantis has done. They have some platitudes of course but you can tell they have zero salient arguments about any negatives on Desantis. The media will try to tear him down but he’s smarter than them and he will expose them the same way Trump did but without alienating a huge part of the electorate. Like it or not you can be “right” all day long but if you alienate too much of the electorate such that you can’t get elected then what the hell good is that?
GOP would be foolish not to ride this guy to victory.
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:56 am to Wtodd
The fairy tale narratives are funny. Its amazing he cult like behavior on display from anyone who is not loyal to the person of Trump.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:57 am to Zap Rowsdower
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so I’m genuinely curious other than endorsements and congratulations he’s gotten from some GOPe members what exactly has he done to be seen as “establishment”?
Fair question.
Evidence in chronological order (if you only read one link the last link is the most important):
The Silence of DeSantis – Florida Governor Ducks Media Appearances, Records Statements, Seeking to Avoid Questions About Trump Raid
The Managing of DeSantis, Five Days in the Bunker and a New Press Secretary
After Six Days of Silence, Ron DeSantis Surfaces in Arizona During TPUSA Rally for Kari Lake and Blake Masters – 8:30pm ET Livestream
Ron DeSantis Wins the Coveted David Frum Endorsement – The Acceptable Republican Presidential Candidate
For Those with Eyes to See
Team Behind Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Purchase First National TV Campaign Ad
DeSantis Beats Trump on Fundraising – However, Donor Financials Highlight Corporate Version vs Grassroots Version of The Republican Party
DeSantis Pulls Out of Lee Zeldin Fundraiser After Meeting with Billionaire Donor Who Just Gave More Than $400,000 to Kathy Hochul
DeSantis Breaks Silence About Biden Attack Speech
Citadel Investment Boss Ken Griffin Previously Gave DeSantis $10 Million, Today Says He Would Accept Position as Treasury Secretary
Atwater Styled Shenanigans Surface in DeSantis National Political Campaign
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Wins Coveted Paul Ryan Endorsement for 2024
Megyn Kelly Notes Why Ron DeSantis Doesn’t Stand a Chance Against Donald Trump, She is Not Wrong
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Wins Coveted Jeb Bush Endorsement for 2024
Governor Ron DeSantis Endorses Senate Candidate Joe O’Dea, Who Vows to Campaign Against Donald Trump
Governor Ron DeSantis Easily Won His Debate, Yet Flubbed The Most Predictable Question
Hitch Yer’ Wagon – The Club Branding of Ron DeSantis Continues, and The Transparency is a Little Funny
Likely in Response to the “Ron is God” Campaign Ad, President Trump Gives Ron DeSantis a Nickname
“DeSanctimonious” is Not About the Florida Governor
DeSantis Megadonor, Billionaire Head of Citadel Investments Ken Griffin, Explains Why He Purchased Ron DeSantis for 2024 and What He Expects from His Investment
The Establishment Is Trying to Divide and Conquer MAGA
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:59 am to Zap Rowsdower
It's not about Trump.
None of this is about Trump.
It's about the movement that produced Trump.
The disgusted voters tired of being played lip service by their candidates and then having that candidate acting differently once in office.
Trade, war, immigration....the national issues that matter.
The establishment hates Trump because he wants free trade that's fair, a closed border and no more stupid wars.
The open border, more war sell outs donating to and lining up behind Desantis is a red flag.
I love Desantis, but why doesn't he align with Trump and against the Paul Ryans of the world.
Does Desantis still support TPP? Will he finish the wall? Paul Ryan didn't want Trump getting ten cents for the wall in spite of the fact it was maybe the biggest reason Trump was elected.
Looking forward to a spirited primary if Desantis takes it on.
None of this is about Trump.
It's about the movement that produced Trump.
The disgusted voters tired of being played lip service by their candidates and then having that candidate acting differently once in office.
Trade, war, immigration....the national issues that matter.
The establishment hates Trump because he wants free trade that's fair, a closed border and no more stupid wars.
The open border, more war sell outs donating to and lining up behind Desantis is a red flag.
I love Desantis, but why doesn't he align with Trump and against the Paul Ryans of the world.
Does Desantis still support TPP? Will he finish the wall? Paul Ryan didn't want Trump getting ten cents for the wall in spite of the fact it was maybe the biggest reason Trump was elected.
Looking forward to a spirited primary if Desantis takes it on.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its amazing he cult like behavior on display from anyone who is not loyal to the person of Trump.
I was pretty loyal until lately. He doesn't realize how much damage he's doing to the party and himself.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:00 am to Tiger985
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The disgusted voters tired of being played lip service by their candidates and then having that candidate acting differently once in office.
You mean like Trump fricking did?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:01 am to YankeeBama
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Voted to warp speed TPP with the green idiots.
This is a massive establishment recorded vote.
Most people don't understand why this is an establishment move but all Wall Street donors who are big equity holders in multinational corporations know.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:01 am to Wtodd
I get the fervor for a non traditional candidate, but I don't get the exclusionary litmus test type activity coming from that camp.
Isolating potential allies are what did Trump in. Not mean tweets that pissed off housewives. The base gets whittled down even more post election due to even more exclusionary rhetoric.
Isolating potential allies are what did Trump in. Not mean tweets that pissed off housewives. The base gets whittled down even more post election due to even more exclusionary rhetoric.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:02 am to YankeeBama
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Voted to warp speed TPP with the green idiots.
That is small potatoes.
Trump signed into law the 2018 Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency Act.
Trump signed the law that actually helped bring down (think Hunter Biden laptop suppression).
This was detailed in the story done by the Intercept that came out last week. Everyone should read.
This was a pure inside DC/establishment/big government law that someone like Rand Paul won't sign in a million years.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:10 am
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:03 am to GumboPot
DeSantis nut huggers be like Im not reading all that REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:03 am to Zap Rowsdower
Trump used to fully support Desantis. Trump has a history of supporting people who end up being establishment hacks. I'm not saying Desantis is. I'm just saying that trump has a poor track record and often supports the wrong people.
I like trump, but I second guess everyone he supports, it can't be helped.
I like trump, but I second guess everyone he supports, it can't be helped.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:04 am to elposter
quote:
Look at his policies. Look at his actions. Judge the man by what he has done not by what people label him. He has blue collar roots from his Italian heritage. Mom was a nurse, dad was a technician installing Nielson rating boxes on tvs. Guy is smart as shite so he went to Yale undergrad and Harvard law. He was an athlete playing college baseball. He served in the Navy (JAG) and was deployed to Iraq to serve as legal advisor to SEAL Team 1. In Congress he was founding member of the Freedom caucus and consistently advocated for conservative policies and values. Check his record. He was an early and consistent supporter of Trump and a vocal critic of the Mueller investigation and other bullshite that the establishment did to Trump. As Governor he has been a stalwart conservative and basically a political badass in the face of constant criticism from the “establishment” and the left, including ABC/Disney, which would have made less principled and capable men back down and even crumble. He’s an incredible asset to conservatives. He’s smart, his resume is flawless, there is basically zero baggage, he knows the enemy well and he’s shown he can govern circles around them. I live in a very liberal area and my democratic friends can’t debate me about what Desantis has done. They have some platitudes of course but you can tell they have zero salient arguments about any negatives on Desantis. The media will try to tear him down but he’s smarter than them and he will expose them the same way Trump did but without alienating a huge part of the electorate. Like it or not you can be “right” all day long but if you alienate too much of the electorate such that you can’t get elected then what the hell good is that? GOP would be foolish not to ride this guy to victory.
But he’s just an “edgy Romney!!!!!!”
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:07 am to GumboPot
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GumboPot
Thanks! About to walk into the doctor’s office so I’ll start reading on those while I wait till 9:30 to get called back for my 8:30 appointment
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:08 am to Wtodd
quote:It might be in the early stages, but to say there is no evidence of them sniffing around his jock is naive.
Establishment types like Ryan & Jeb are trying to lure him on their side but there's no evidence that it actually happened
Yahoo article about Jeb gushing over Desantis being a formidable '24 canidate
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:10 am to Zap Rowsdower
His policies in Florida are 10 out of 10 for what conservatives on this board are calling for. Their only issue with him is that he isn’t Trump.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:10 am to Wtodd
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He doesn't realize how much damage he's doing to the party and himself.
What party?
If you win with a Paul Ryan candidate, you haven't won shite.
Let's hear from Desantis on Ryan, McConnell and Romney.
He's a big boy.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
Even odder about these people is that everyone is a sheep fooled by the MSM so they link you to Bannon or other random far right sites with deep state conspiracies and accept those as their truth
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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This same logic didn't apply to the KKK or David Duke endorsing Trump in 2016, though.
How many hundreds of millions of dollars did the KKK or David Duke give Trump? Your logic is horseshite then, as usual.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:11 am to Plx1776
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Trump used to fully support Desantis.
He still supports DeSantis to the extent that he voted for him two days ago.
This is not about Trump or DeSantis. This is about the populist MAGA movement versus the GOP establishment side of the DC Uniparty. Trump is only a figure head of the current MAGA movement. It might as well be DeSantis.
But people with clear eyes can see that DeSantis is in the process of being captured by the GOP establishment DC money interest. They need DeSantis as their figurehead because they believe they can use DeSantis to divide the populist MAGA movement.
This is not the GOPe's first rodeo. They played the same games in 2014 against the Tea Party uprising. The difference this time is that there are more people aware of the DC establishment maneuvers.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:14 am to KAGTASTIC
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GOPe operatives are rounding their bandwagons around Desantis.
There's an obvious reason for this. While it's true that the establishment hates Trump, they also feel like DeSantis has the better chance to win the general election in 2024.
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